Worst gift: The first
year that my husband and I were married, we spent the Christmas
holidays at his parent's home, at the request of my MIL. After
driving almost fifteen hundred miles, sleeping in separate rooms
(DH in his "old" room, me on the cellar couch), treating
my MIL, FIL, and two BILs to Christmas Eve dinner, and spending
over one thousand dollars on gifts (my MIL actually gave us a list),
my DH received an Oxford shirt (pink) and I received a (broken)
music box that my MIL had picked up at a garage sale. At first,
I thought they were kidding. To my horror and surprise, it
was no joke. This has to be the worst gift I have ever gotten.
Signed - Christmas Joke?
RESPONSE: Christmas Joke?
That would be the LAST time that I ever broke my back for the In-laws.
I would tell MIL, "No," to her requests for coming during
the holidays. Spend your holidays either alone or at your
parents house where you are treated with RESPECT! What did
your DH say about this? Never again would I darken their doors
or do something "nice" for them, NEVER!
RESPONSE: Christmas Joke?
Well, your mistake is the first sentence. "The first
year that my husband and I were married, we spent the Christmas
holidays at his parent's home, at the request of my MIL."
Adopt a policy of once bitten, twice shy. For next year:
Q: Can you come to us for Christmas? A: No. Q:
Here is our present list. A: No. Personally, I
*HATE* present lists (beyond the "here's a few ideas if you
get stuck"). It's too impersonal (what's the thought
involved?), and these manipulative persons (insert appropriate word)
just use it to get expensive things. My MIL has, as far as
I can recall, never asked for anything that was inexpensive.
Usually, she asks for a joint present (for her and FIL) bought in
advance *AND* she wants something else as well!
If there are any DILs reading this, I sure hope
it clarifies a few things. I have gone from one extreme
to the other as far as having a MIL. As a divorced mother
of 2, I am extremely glad to be rid of my ex-MIL, as she was truly
evil, spiteful, etc. She forged my ex-DH's and my signature
and social security number on some papers. Before ex-DH
and I were married, he had a joint checking account with her.
And, he found out just before the wedding that she had wiped it
out. There was about $2,000 in the account at that time.
We did our best to forgive her, only to be kicked again when she
decided to play favorites with her grandkids. She actually
went to the extent of badmouthing our child when he was all of
13 months old. At that point, we severed all ties with the
old battle ax. He and I were divorced for other reasons,
as she hadn't had involvement in our lives for nearly 10 years
at that point. I am now remarried to a wonderful man whose
mother is not mean by nature, but she is a nuisance. She
is the type who wants to know every time one of us or the children
has a bowel movement. She still lives in the same small
town DH grew up in, yet he hasn't lived there in nearly 8 years.
She wants to know how much money we both make, and any medical
information. And, anything DH does, she just gushes over,
as he is just so woooooooonnnnnnnnnndddddddeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrffffffuuuuuuuullllllllll.
It's not that she doesn't like me, quite the contrary. She
wants to know everything about me and the children. She
has opened her home and her heart to them, and accepted them as
if they were her own biological grandchildren (which, in itself
is a wonderful thing, because they always had that void on my
ex-DH's side). However, I like to keep a lot of aspects
of my life private - finances, medical info, etc. She is
just so smothering sometimes. She lives 2 hours away, so
we see her about once a month. But, she calls DH at work
no less than once a day, and sometimes will call the house 2-3
times a day, usually late at night, since we both work.
She knows better than to call me at work, because I don't appreciate
the intrusion. She went so far as to stop at my workplace
once. She wanted to see my office, wanted to meet my coworkers,
and even wanted to know where I park my car. I was absolutely
mortified. I told her I do not like drop-ins at home, and
most certainly not at my place of business. She has kind
of cooled her heels since this. The only real reservation
I think she has with me is the fact that I cannot give DH any
biological children. Oh, sure, she thinks I am way too independent,
and shouldn't focus so much on my career and business. She
even thinks I am offensive regarding how "private" I
am. All in all, we get along, but, if she weren't DH's mother,
I would have nothing to do with this nosey woman. I have
come to the conclusion that, although not all MILs are the same,
they are all a pain in the backside. In retrospect, if I
had known all the hurt and heartache my ex-MIL would inflict,
I probably would have never married my first DH. I took
this into consideration the second time around, and, ultimately,
decided I could deal with my current MIL. I just have to
remind her of her place from time to time. Just a word of
advice for those young, soon-to-be DIL's - being a DIL is NOT
for the faint hearted.
Signed - Been There,
Still Doing It
RESPONSE: Been There, Still Doing It
Your MIL's nosiness, as harmless as it seems, is disturbing and
destructive. I had a MIL like that. I used to feel
that she "loved" me and our child. I let my defenses
down, thought it was harmless snooping, and lived to regret letting
her in on ANYTHING. Information is power, and she's building
up her arsenal. And, she has NO BUSINESS wanting to know
financial or medical info. She's up to something, so don't
let her in. There's no reason in the world for her to have
shown up at your work, by the way, and you are right to instinctively
feel that this was wrong. That's horrible. I'd get
your DH to put a stop to his mother's snooping - NOW. The
next time she wants to snoop, or does something you don't like,
why not ask her, "Did you let your MIL know you and your
husband's finances?". If she says, "YES,"
to justify her actions, I'd say, "Well, that's not the kind
of marriage we have, or want." Confront her with lots
of questions about HER marriage, her finances, her ILs, etc.
Ask to see HER medical records, etc., etc. When she balks,
say, "Well, you're always asking us for our information -
let's check out your bank accounts, friends, etc.".
RESPONSE: Been There, Still Doing It
Oh my God, are you talking about MY MIL? You have described
her perfectly, even down to the gushing about how wonnnnnnderrrfullllll
everything about my DH is! Boy, do I sympathize. Everything
is the same. Sometimes, I just stew with anger and resentment
toward her. It's a long story. I think about it every
day (and pretty much check this site every day - you guys are
great!). But, it's so depressing to think MILs are automatically
awful, because we're going to be MILs someday (or a lot of us
are). How can we not turn into monsters ourselves?
My own mother is a good MIL. She doesn't have a big ego,
and doesn't feel like she has to have her own way, which is part
of it. She's supportive and loyal to her son-in-law (my
DH adores her) and also to my SIL (who also adores her).
She's closer to my SIL than to my brother. Boy, she would
NEVER be nosy, intrusive, or gush over how wonnnnderfullll my
brother is! My question is: If a woman really tries,
CAN she be a good MIL? Is it all about effort as opposed
to self-indulgence? It seems like a lot of the problems
here are due to MILs being really egotistical, selfish, and self-indulgent.
If they'd really try not to be that way, could they be decent
MILs? Well, anyway, this whole thing depresses me like crazy.
But we really must have the same MIL! Not evil, but she
needs to back off. I just would like to believe that it
would be possible to be a good MIL if we really cared about that,
and wanted to. If we were humble (not arrogant) and totally
supportive, would that do it? Signature: Terrified of Becoming
a MIL.
RESPONSE: Been There, Still Doing It
I'd enjoy the peace. I bet you anything you'd like that
she'll get evil and spiteful very suddenly once she's realizes
she can't get as close to you as she wants to.
Worst gift: When I was
18, I was a broke university student. My parents, on one
income, gave, till it hurt, to my aunt and her children.
My mum wore hand-me-down clothes, but would give my aunt hundreds
of dollars regularly, because she claimed to have no food in the
house. When we would visit to bring over food, firewood,
money, etc., I would notice $100 plus perfume on her dresser,
new brand name clothes in her wardrobe, and, finally, a new computer
in my cousin's room. I had no transport at university, so
my aunt told my mother that I could have her daughter's old bike,
as she didn't need it now that she had bought a car. It
was the ONE generous thing she ever did for our family.
Months later, my cousin demanded the bike back. I gave it
back, only to find out that she had sent it to the DUMP!
Pursued by drunk men on my way home from school, I angrily recalled
this, as I would have been able to outrun them if I had had the
bike.
Signed - Molested For
Lack Of A Bike
RESPONSE: Molested For Lack Of A Bike
If you were physically and/or sexually attacked, get some help.
Don't blame your attack on the lack of a bike. The attack
took place because some very bad men wanted to hurt you.
The bike may not have saved you. You need to speak to someone
to work this out. I hope you are not letting those bad men
stop you from finishing your education. The best thing for
you to do is to let the bad experience make you stronger.
PLEASE get some help.
RESPONSE: Molested For Lack Of A Bike
It's great that your parents helped out your aunt and cousins
when they needed them. But, why did they do so at the sake
of their own family??? I had an aunt like that, always claiming
to be broke and have no food for her 3 kids. There was no
food in the house for the kids, but she never lacked for anything.
My mom came up with a good solution. Since they lived a
state away, she just bought them gift certificates for the local
grocery store. That way, she HAD to buy food for the kids.
I understand always wanting to help out your family, but why couldn't
your cousin give you a ride if she had a car??? I would
cut ties with them. It sounds like they are just using your
family's generosity.
We just got married, and my parents spent thousands
of dollars on the wedding, as well as buying us an extremely generous
wedding gift (couch, loveseat, recliner, two coffee tables, and
kitchen table set). My FIL was asked to be the best man.
Did my husband have a "bachelor" party? No.
My brothers took him out. Did FIL give us a wedding gift?
No, not even a card. It was more like he was doing us a
favor by agreeing to be in the wedding. And, my SIL, who
is a professional ballerina, cut out a PAPER HEART, glued it to
construction paper, and put it in an ugly frame. And she
signed her "artwork". That was her gift to us.
Had she been 15 years younger, it would've been cute. The
rest of his relatives were bad, but actually not as bad as what
I just mentioned. Unfortunately, the only people who were
actually generous at our wedding were the people who were invited
from their side who were NOT RELATED.
Signed - Dumbfounded
RESPONSE: Dumbfounded
Our wedding was the wedding from he!! too. Both of our families
were horrible with their ultra-controlling behavior (with mine
refusing to attend if they didn't get their way, and my sister
getting high and drunk and being insulting). DH's family
was "insulted" for not having their 300 relatives invited
(despite the idea that my parents paying for the wedding), not
having their "traditional" wedding for their culture
(despite their OWN SON not wanting it at all), for not having
their own music, etc., etc., etc. We weren't spoken to for
days afterwards, and neither side were on good terms with us,
until we announced our child was to be a boy (oh the joys of ultrasounds).
Although my family seems to have recovered from the ill-feeling,
some residual ill-feeling obviously exists, as DH is never invited
to any of his extended family's gatherings, including weddings,
christenings, etc. These are the ones that my parents couldn't
afford to invite - and our wedding had 90 people with 40 being
DH's family, 15 being mine, and the remainder being close friends
of DH's and mine. Luckily, DH couldn't give a stuff, but
it's so obvious that we're excluded, and it's because of his parents
not getting their own way.
RESPONSE: Dumbfounded
It sounds to me like your SIL will be getting craft items as gifts
from now on. Also, I would let DH do ALL of the gift shopping
for his family. You should not contribute any time to the
gift buying effort. Also, does DH buy you good gifts?
After all, he did come from this family and learned gift giving
from them.
RESPONSE: Dumbfounded
Incredible. If I were in your place now, I'd know EXACTLY
what to give your SIL and all the others who were cheap and ungrateful.
SAVE THE PAPER HEART (to be able to show it as an "acceptable"
gift) and cut out others. Every time it's a birthday, anniversary,
graduation, etc., give them a paper heart gift like that!!
Sign it, and make your own frame from twigs!! I'm serious
by the way. They set the precedent. For cheapo, non-gift
people like FIL: Give NO presents. Just attend the
function or party, shake their hands (as they did yours), and
DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY. And EAT ALL THEIR FOOD!
RESPONSE: Dumbfounded
I can relate to your story, as my husband and I were married this
past July. We had a small wedding with just my parents,
one brother and sister-in-law, his mother, and one sister and
brother-in-law. We really did not want any family there,
but decided it would hurt feelings if we did not. So, that
was all we had. It was very small, because that is the way
we chose it to be. On the day we were married, my parents
gave us a card, brother and sister-in-law gave a gift, and we
received nothing from his side of the family (not even a card).
We also went to dinner after the ceremony with my brother and
sister-in-law and his mom. When we got to the restaurant,
the waitress asked if this were going to be on one bill or separate
bills. Who spoke up first? His mother did, and she
said, "Separate bills." To top this all off, his
baby sister was getting married in November. His mother
paid for the entire wedding, and bought her a very nice shower
gift. I do not know what they got for a wedding gift, because
by that point in time, my husband was so ticked off for not even
getting a card that we did not go to his sister's wedding.
It did not bother me that my parents only gave us a card, as this
was my second wedding. But, this was my husband's first
wedding. You would have thought that his mother could have
at least acknowledged the fact that he was married. Needless
to say, this has caused many hurt feelings, and since his sister's
wedding, things have been said, but not repaired. We are,
at least, on speaking terms with his mother. I don't understand
how parents can treat their children that way. I have a
14-year-old son from my first marriage, and I would never do that
to him. When he gets married, I will offer to help pay for
the wedding, buy a gift, and do what ever else needs to be done,
because I Love my son, and I would never want to hurt him in that
way. Good luck.
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