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Worst gift:  My MIL loves going to the local thrift shop.  She made me a gift of a container of dried hot pepper flakes.  It had been opened, and all but one inch in the bottom of the container was used.

        Signed - Long-suffering DIL

RESPONSE:  Long-suffering DIL
Puh-leeeese!  That had to be an insult.  From now on, let DH buy gifts for her, from HIM.  Leave your name off of the gift tag.  If she improves, you could give her gifts again.

frequent fry her - Kezziah 2 of 4 Frequent Fry Her TM. - Kezziah 2 of 4 needed /Posted: 16-MAY-02
My MIL told DH and I that she and her new hubby were coming to visit us.  Then, she turned around and told DH (online), that they were not coming out, because she can't stand the thought of being patted down by airport security.  Two weeks later, DH called her to see what was going on, and she and step-FIL had just gotten back from a trip to see SFIL's brother.  And, they flew to see him!  I was very upset that she could fly to see her BIL, but couldn't fly to see her only child and only grandchild.  She then called my house a week later and asked if DH was home.  I told her he wasn't, and I started to say something about my son before she could even say anything.  She cut me off as soon as she heard my son's name, and said, "Oh, well, I gotta go."  Why would she call my house, only to have to go 2 minutes after I answer the phone?  My husband was on the phone with her for an hour one night (we were paying for the call) talking about her life.  And, as soon as he brought up our son, she had to get off the phone.  She never wants to hear about her grandchild.  It really makes me mad that she doesn't show much interest in my son.  I know it is hard since we live in separate states, but my parents live in the same state as she does, and they are very active in my son's life, despite the distance.

        Signed - She Never Wants To Hear About Her Grandchild

( I want my own Frequent Fry Her TM Page )

RESPONSE:  She Never Wants To Hear About Her Grandchild
Worry less about your MIL, and worry more about your child's happiness.  You child is going to figure out that MIL is an awful person, and will not have much to do with her.  That is her loss, not your child's.  Also, your DH should foster a relationship between his mom and your child.  It really isn't your place.  Stop feeling sad or angry about the missing relationship, and concentrate on the loving relationships that can be built upon.

RESPONSE:  She Never Wants To Hear About Her Grandchild
I would not return her phone calls.  I wouldn't answer the phone.  I would let the answering machine get it, or get caller ID.  If she wants to be rude to you and try and split you and your husband apart, I would just ignore her and never talk to her again.  If she decides to become an adult, then talk to her.  If not, flip up your middle finger and say so long.  Lord knows she has been doing it to you and your family.

RESPONSE:  She Never Wants To Hear About Her Grandchild
To some people, kids and babies are extremely boring topics.  Some people really don't want to hear about poopy diapers.  Why don't you get DH to ask her?

RESPONSE:  She Never Wants To Hear About Her Grandchild
It sounds like your MIL is a very chaste and virtuous woman if she cannot bear to be "patted" down by airport security.  Does she belong to a very devout religious order?

RESPONSE:  She Never Wants To Hear About Her Grandchild
Get Caller ID, and don't answer when she calls - let DH get it.  Stop forcing your child on her.  He will be hurt by her resistance to having a loving relationship.  Be thankful your parents are in his life.

I need some advice on how to handle a pushy, overbearing MIL.  She was always very possessive of my husband, and was always sure to let me know that I came in second to "his mommy".  I have a one year old DD who is the first grandchild of my MIL, and she is driving me insane!  She tries to act like she is my baby's mother!  It started hours after I gave birth.  She came to see me at the hospital, and immediately yanked the baby out of my arms.  She is constantly doing this to me.  One year later, she still can't stand to see me holding DD.  The minute she walks in the room, I don't see my baby until she's gone (hours later).  Even if DD cries for me, she walks away with her so I can't hold her.  I work FT, and don't have much spare time to spend with my baby.  Any time I do have to spend with her, MIL is always there, hovering over me and snatching her away from me.  She undermines everything I say, and says, "That this is how I did it when DH was little, and he survived."  She calls the house constantly, and doesn't even say hello to me when I answer.  She says, "Let me speak to DH."  When she isn't calling, she and FIL show up unannounced.  If I am feeding the baby, she will take the bottle, and the baby, out of my hands, and tells DD that she will feed her, because I don't know how to do it right.  I am constantly fighting with DH about this, because he never puts his foot down with her.  I have tolerated her controlling my marriage for many years, which I know I shouldn't, but what can I do when FIL and DH support her every move.  I refuse to let her control how my child is raised, and to make me feel like an outsider where DD is concerned.  She sees her at least 4 times during the week, and insists that we spend every Sunday with her.  For the 8 years that I have been with DH, we spent every single Sunday with the in-laws.  I could go on forever about the horrors she's done to me before I had the baby, but where my DD is concerned, I really can't take it anymore.  I'm sorry this is so long, but I'm at my wit's ends trying to keep the peace with his family.  I am even starting to have anxiety attacks because of her, and I cry all the time, because I feel so frustrated.  I have no support from DH where his mother is concerned.  She is the only reason we ever fight, and it's so often that I've threatened divorce several times.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

        Signed - I'm the Mommy!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Your DH really needs to stand up here.  Have you thought about talking to a counselor in order to work through this?  Most grandmothers would be thrilled to see their grand kids that often, and your MIL is overstepping her boundaries.  I don't know if it will work if your DH won't back you up, but maybe you could use DD's schedule as an excuse (i.e., "Oh, she's had a long day," or, "She's teething and needs a nap," or, "She just had her shots.")  Maybe that would help get you away from this woman.  Good luck!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Boy, she sounds like my MIL.  My husband and I do not have children yet, and MIL already comes over, at most, 3 times a week.  I am truly beginning to dislike her a lot.  My DH always cares what his mom says and feels.  But me he just manipulates into doing their bidding.  I am considering divorce.  I am a fighter though, and I think that is what she wants.  Me!  Me!  Me!  Not only her, but the GMIL is into this too.  My husband says that I am imagining things.  I can talk to my husband till I am blue in the face.  But he doesn't care.  I really wish he would go back to his momma, and let me have a life without MIL!!!!!!!!!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Seriously, you need to put your foot down.  She will continue running (and ruining) your life as long as you let her.  Set definite limits on the time MIL spends with your child and at your house.  Also, cut down on the number of visits you have with her.  Let her know that this is directly because of her behavior.  And, make your husband back you up on this.  If MIL has a problem with the new rules, she needs to take them up with your husband.  And your husband needs to do the battling with her from now on.  Good luck.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Maybe you should really get that divorce.  It sounds like your marriage is crummy, and DH has no respect whatsoever for you.  The problem is with him, not MIL.  Good luck.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
One more thing, stop spending so much time with her if you aren't comfortable with it.  Remember, she's not in charge, YOU ARE.  If you don't want to spend every Sunday with the ILs, you shouldn't have to.  You're a working mom, and unlike your IL's, you have a life!  Tell them that you want more time alone time with DH and DD.  If they don't like it, too bad for them.  And if DH has a problem with it, tell him that HE can go visit his parents, but you and DD are staying home.  My in-laws are similar.  Take it from me, you HAVE to say something about this.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
It's time to stand up for yourself.  You need to make it very clear to your DH that you will no longer tolerate your MIL's behavior - PERIOD.  You should not have to put up with your MIL if she is going to act that way, so don't!  The next time she tries to take your baby from you, don't let her.  Tell her that it's YOUR child, and if she wants to hold her, she needs to ask first.  YOU'RE the mother, therefore YOU decide, not your MIL.  And, if she doesn't like it, too bad.  Her behavior is inexcusable, and you shouldn't tolerate it (nor should your DH).  But, if he won't stand up to her, you absolutely should.  You have that right.  It doesn't matter if she's "family" or not, your MIL shouldn't be acting that way.  Good luck!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
I know exactly how you feel.  My MIL and I got along better before I had my daughter.  My MIL used to baby-sit for my daughter while my DH and I worked.  She would try to tell me how to take care of her when she was sick, what to feed her, and how to dress her.  We would go over and visit, and she would take her from me.  I wouldn't get to hold her until we were ready to leave.  Well, she has her five days a week, for 8 hours a day.  The weekends and nights are mine.  She is my DD, not hers.  She would even say (when DD was learning how to talk, and understand what you were saying), "Bring that toy to mom." She was referring to herself as mom.  I told my husband that she was mom-mom, and if he didn't tell her that, I would.  She would even tell me that I started her too soon on her foods.  Well, I told her that I had a son from my first marriage, and he has turned out okay.  I am doing the same things with DD.  My MIL is very overbearing, and wants to be queen bee.  Needless to say, I had a long talk with her.  I had arranged for my aunt to watch DD two days a week, and for my MIL to watch DD three days a week.  My MIL also watches my DH's niece and nephew.  My MIL loved it if my DD cried when it was time for us to leave.  She would make a big deal about it, saying, "Oh, she doesn't want to leave me."  She was 7 months at the time, and she didn't understand.  I was having anxiety attacks.  I went to the doctor, and she put me on nerve medicine.  I couldn't deal with my MIL.  I told my DH that enough was enough.  My MIL had a fit when I told her that she would only be watching DD three days a week.  I told her that while she was watching her five days a week, I didn't want to go over and visit them on the weekends because that was our time to spend with our DD.  She told me that I had two weeks to find someone else to watch her, because she wasn't going to watch her at all.  She didn't talk to me for four months.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Three words for you:  See a counselor.  If DH won't go with you, go by yourself.  This situation is never going to get any better if you just tolerate it and try to ignore it.  And you KNOW that.  You need to learn how to set boundaries and stand firm about them.  Four times a week?  That's WAY overboard!  I can't believe you put up with seeing MIL every weekend for 8 years.  I would have been in divorce court (or a mental hospital) LONG before that!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
I can totally understand why you are having anxiety attacks and crying all the time over this intolerable situation with your MIL!  While I certainly can empathize with your feelings, it's way past time that YOU put YOUR foot down with this pushy, overbearing woman.  The reason that she continues her obnoxious behavior is because no one is stopping her!!  You sound very intimidated by her (and you better believe she uses that for all it's worth!).  I understand that it will be hard to speak up to her after all this time, but if you really value the time you have to spend with your child, then you MUST set some boundaries and rules if you're going to allow this woman in your home.  If your husband won't help you (which is unfortunate), then YOU must take a stand!  Your children are only little once, and you can never go back and reclaim the time you've lost.  So, act now!!  When you're holding the baby or feeding her, and your MIL charges you and tries to grab her away, use your body to block her.  Turn away, and then tell her that she is NOT going to hold the baby unless she can be civil and ask your permission first!!  Then, don't hand over the baby until she complies!  And, if you want to finish the feeding first, tell her she can hold the baby afterwards!  You MUST find your voice!!  No one can take a child from your arms unless you let go - so DON'T LET GO!  It's as simple as that.  Then, explain to granny, in no uncertain terms, that her behavior is extremely inappropriate and upsetting.  And if she can't control herself around you, then she won't be allowed in your home until she can!!  It's remotely possible that MIL will respect your spunk and actually begin to realize that you ARE a capable mother.  Remember - no one can take advantage of you unless YOU let them!!  Let us know how this turns out.  Good luck!!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Yes, you are the mommy - and it's time to enforce it!  FROM THIS MOMENT ON, DO NOT EVER LET MIL PUT YOU DOWN IN FRONT OF DD AGAIN!!!  You should have taken your DD right back into your loving arms when MIL snatched her from you when you were at the hospital.  The next time she tries to take DD from your arms when you don't want to, DO NOT LET HER!!!  STAND UP TO HER.  Tell her that you are able to care for and raise your daughter properly.  For her to tell you that you are doing everything wrong (and your DH lets her say such awful things) is UNACCEPTABLE!!  YOUR MIL IS NOT YOUR DD's MOTHER!  REFUSE TO LET HER GET AWAY WITH IT ANYMORE!!  So-called DH should make you and DD his priorities, not his dear old mum.  If you have threatened DH with divorce, because he will not support you and stand up to MIL, then you should take your DD and actually leave for some time to give him the message that you are actually serious.  If this does not knock some sense into him, then divorce may be the answer.  Make sure you get custody, and nail down the visitation rights to the letter.  OMG - you are required to visit MIL EVERY Sunday???  It's time to change things.  Do something NOW, or you will be miserable for the rest of your life!!!  I realize that this sounds harsh, but you have taken too much abuse for too long!!  Make things right for yourself and your DD!!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
You have to stand up for yourself and your daughter.  My MIL was like this with my son, and I put a stop to it.  No longer let her take your DD out of your arms without your permission.  If you have to, follow her and take your DD back!  Your DH may not be able to stand up for you, but you have to do it yourself!  Your story was so similar to what my MIL was doing, except that my DH saw it, and was able to put a stop to it before it got totally out of hand.  My MIL is now very respectful of when I have my DS.  I wish you all the luck, but you have to stop letting this woman take your DD from you.  It will cause a fight - be ready for it.  But don't back down.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Don't let her snatch your baby out of your arms!  Hold on to her.  Stand up to that nasty MIL!  Tell her that your DD is not her DS!  If you cannot stand up to her, when you hear her coming in the door, go in the bedroom and lock yourself and the baby inside until you are ready to share her.  You need to have all the time you can with your DD - they grow so fast!  Try not to give your MIL power over you.  And, kick your sorry DH in the butt for not standing up for you!  You have to take care of you - nobody else will.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
My best advice is to stop trying to keep the peace, and raise he!!.  Tell your MIL to get the he!! back when she tries to take your daughter out of your arms.  Refuse to let her go.  Turn your back, and walk out of the room.  Clearly, your husband has no balls.  So, your ovaries will have to do.  Personally, I'd move out with DD.  I'd tell DH that I'd consider living with him again when he gets some testicles surgically attached, and tells MIL that she's not welcome at your new place.  That may not be necessary, but standing up for yourself, instead of trying to smooth things over, is long overdue.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
It is time for you to get a backbone and lay down the law in your house.  If DH doesn't like it, then send him back to mommy with divorce papers.  You need to stop being a doormat, and start putting your foot down.  You are going to get A LOT of resistance and argument, but things are not going to get better until you make good on your promise.  Take DH to one of your counseling session.  Let him know what the problem is, and put some of the burden on him.  If he cannot support you, then send him packing.  It is time for you to be a strong woman, and show your DD that an American woman is not one to be abused.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
I am so sorry for your pain - how frustrating!  Consider seeing a doctor and getting some medication to help with anxiety - even if only for a little while.  Set some rules with hubby regarding MIL's behavior around baby.  And, leave if he won't agree.  Oh yeah - stop going to her house on Sundays!!  That's ridiculous!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
I'm sorry, but you should really leave your DH if he does not support or stand up for you against the awful things his mother is doing to you.  Take your baby and go.  It's the best thing for her too!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Oh my God.  You've GOT to put your foot down.  The next time that she tries to take the baby from you, you hold on with all your might and say, "No, I have her.  Thanks, but I really WANT to hold her right now.  She needs her MOTHER."  If your husband says a bad word to you about it, let him have it right between the eyes.  YOU are his family now - you and his daughter.  And you both need him to be responsible for what goes on in his house, including the way his mother behaves.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
For the sake of your DD, you must stand up to your MIL.  Never mind what your DH and FIL say.  You are the child's mother, and you have every right to be respected for that.  Tell your MIL that you aren't going to put up with it anymore, and that from now on, she has to ask YOU when she can hold YOUR baby.  Be strong.  What could happen that is worse than what is already happening now?

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Until you say "no", mean it, and follow through, that woman is going to continue to walk all over you.  You say that you're not going to let your MIL undermine your way of raising your daughter, but you haven't stopped her from taking your DD away from you, and badmouthing you to your own child.  You can leave the house with your child when MIL shows up unannounced.  You can refuse to let her in.  At the very least, let your husband know how NUTS this is making you.  And, try to make him understand the damage that he's allowing to continue.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Instead of getting mad at your DH for not putting his foot down, why don't you put YOUR foot down?  When MIL tries to take the baby when you're feeding her, a simple, "No, not right now.  You can see her when we're done," would work wonders.  You don't have to surrender your child to her every time she decides she wants to see her.  Don't be unreasonably difficult or contrary, but if you want to hold your daughter or finish feeding her, you have every right to do so.  When MIL says, "This is how I did it with DS and he survived," you can agree with her that she did a marvelous job with your DH, but that THIS is the way things are going to be done with YOUR daughter.  Again, don't be unreasonable.  But, on the important stuff, insist on it being done your way (or show MIL that her contact with DD will be limited).  Tell her nicely that she and FIL need to call before they come over.  Will she get mad?  Probably.  But so what?  Behave REASONABLY, with maturity and class, but make it clear that YOU and your DH make the decisions regarding your daughter.  She won't have much room to complain.  If your DH gets mad that you are standing up to his mother, then get to counseling.  It sounds like you may need to anyway, if you feel that his mother is controlling your marriage.  Good luck.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
The only way it will get better is if you leave the situation.  If DH isn't going to be part of the solution, he will always be part of the problem.  It is better to get out now, than to waste any more time in this train-wreck situation.  The fighting will only get worse, and you don't want your child growing up with her first memories, at age 2 or so, to be of you guys fighting.  You can make it.  There are plenty of single mothers in this world.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
If you have someplace to go, then take the baby and leave.  Tell DH that if he doesn't set some boundaries, then you will not come back.  Let him know how sick it is making you.  If he doesn't take you into consideration, then divorce him and take all the alimony you can get.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Drag your DH's butt to a marriage counselor immediately.  If he refuses to go, tell him that you are going alone - and then do it.  It is time for you to take back your life from your controlling MIL!  Do not let her take your baby from you!  If she approaches you while you are feeding your baby, very firmly tell her that you are feeding your DD, and YOU will let her know when it is okay for her to hold DD.  If she ignores you, walk away from her.  If you are sitting down, raise your foot to her stomach and tell her to stop.  Start setting boundaries and enforce them, even if your spineless DH won't.  You are your child's mother, and you have a right to put your MIL in her rightful place where your DD is concerned.  Please see a therapist.  Your feelings will be validated, and the counselor will also help you to strategize.  Tell your DH that his mother's reign over your lives is over, and if he is not able to be a man and stand up for his wife and child, then he should go live with his mommy.  A lot of men need this kind of jolt to get their attention.  Good luck!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
You know what you need to do.  And that is to put YOUR foot down now!!  Don't wait for your DH to do it.  YOU are the child's mother, and that is YOUR house!  I would set boundaries and tell MIL and FIL that if they don't respect them, they will not see you or their grandchild for AT LEAST 2 months.  Tell MIL that she is no longer allowed to take your DD from you.  She is to ASK to hold her grandchild.  If you are feeding her, tell MIL to leave you and DD alone.  Tell her that the visits will be cut down to one or two visits a week, and NOT every Sunday.  Tell her that she and FIL are not to come over to your house anymore unannounced.  If they call, and you and DD are not busy, they MIGHT be invited to come over.  Before you do this, talk to DH first, and let him know what you are going to do.  Tell him that you want his support because you are tired of being criticized as a mother, that you are not being respected by his mother and father.  If he doesn't want to be a man, then seek counseling, and STILL lay down the law with MIL and FIL.  I don't know if your baby is still small enough, but if she is, buy a front style carrier and put her in it.  That way, MIL can't grab her from you.  Good luck, and keep us posted.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
For God's sake, YOU are the baby's MOTHER - not that witch!  If your DH has no spine, then YOU need to take up for yourself!  When she comes over and takes the baby, take her back and say, "Excuse me, this is MY child.  I will feed her.  And don't you EVER do that again, or your access to this child will be restricted".  If she fights you, tell her to leave.  It is YOUR home.  As far as spending EVERY Sunday with her, inform your DH THAT this will cease (and you might consider once a month, but that is all).  Go visit YOUR family for a change.  What's DH gonna do, take your car keys and manhandle you into the car to HIS momma's?  As far as the snide remarks to the baby about you not doing something right, INFORM the old bag that the remarks cease NOW, or there will be no visits (for her) with the baby.  And, about the phone - get an answering machine and let it pick up the phone.  I would also refuse to put DH on the phone if she is rude.  Tell her that this is YOUR home too, and even if she doesn't like you, she WILL respect you.  Gosh, get the spine that your DH doesn't have!  Take up for yourself!!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Your story did not seem long to me.  I'm also facing the same situation.  At present, we are staying abroad.  But when we go home, this will be the exact case with me.  I don't know how to advise you.  I'm also wondering how to solve my problem.  But, maybe by hearing that I feel the same as you, you may feel a little relieved.  I don't have many friends here, and my husband doesn't want to hear my feelings.  Anyway, I'm hoping that everything will be all right when my baby grows up.  I'm sure my daughter will prefer me to the others once she starts talking and thinking on her own.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Your story was very familiar, as I have BT, DT, and I eventually left my DH because of that.  But, before you take that drastic action, read the "Toxic In-Laws" book, and see if any of those strategies work.  Secondly, you are going to have to learn the art of saying no.  Think of it as dealing with tall children.  You wouldn't give into a child throwing a tantrum, and that's what you are doing now.  Refuse to go every Sunday, and don't let DH take your child.  Expect sulking, but you really have to stick with it until they finally get the message.  Hey, I know, if we didn't go around to the ILs every Sunday, MIL would take to her bed crying.  As for coming round unannounced and undermining you, you are going to have to challenge that too.  It's your home.  Tell her not to come around uninvited constantly.  If your DH is like mine, he may go mad.  But, at least you know exactly where you stand, and it's not in front of his mother in the queue for his loyalty and respect.  I think the book makes some suggestions about challenging critical comments, like "did you say that to deliberately hurt me?" - something non-confrontational, that won't be an insult (no matter how much you want to rip her head off).  I think it's make or break time for you because it never gets better.  And, as you find, the more you give, the more these people want to take and take.  And, they don't care about your feelings at all.  I hope your DH is more receptive to listening to you than mine is to me.  But, even seeing me head out of the door, when pregnant with our third child, didn't register in his mind that I may be totally miserable, and that he needed to do something.  In fact, my DH told me that, unless his mother could be more involved in the upbringing of our children, then he wanted me to have an abortion.  Ho hum, that's perfectly normal, isn't it!!!

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
Well, if you are tired of your MIL snatching the baby out of your arms, DON'T GO TO SEE HER.  Find your spine, and tell your DH, "NO".  Don't go over on Sundays, and don't let DH take the baby with him when he knuckles under and goes to see her on Sundays.  Don't let MIL touch your baby without your express permission.  If she takes the baby out of your arms, TAKE HER BACK - this is, after all, YOUR kid - NOT HERS.  Or, put the baby in a front pack.  My God, why would you allow this woman to walk away with YOUR BABY, when she cries for you?  Tell your MIL that until she can respect YOUR boundaries, she doesn't get to see YOUR baby.  And, that you will not tolerate any discussion about it.  Tell your DH that if he thinks his mommy is such hot stuff, then he can go live with her and let her control him - but you won't let her control you and your baby.  Stop letting these people walk on you.  It's your responsibility to say "no" to that little clan.  It's your responsibility to make sure that your baby feels secure.  And, letting your MIL snatch her away from you isn't helping.

RESPONSE:  I'm the Mommy!
You need to take this into your own hands and say the word "no".  "No, you can't take my baby out of my arms while I'm feeding her," and, "No, I'm not going to spend every Sunday night with you when you treat me like cr@p".  Don't let her treat you like that.  Stand up for yourself.  Hopefully DH will follow your lead.

I can not get over my mother hating my husband and I.  We've been together for 7 years now, married 3, and we have a 1 year old son.  She was not the world's BEST mom growing up.  She told me that I was stupid, and made stupid choices.  Overweight my entire childhood, she had me on a diet from age 5.  And, she never has any problem telling me I am a B!TCH.  She is a very hurtful, angry woman.  From the beginning, she didn't like my DH.  He is a soft hearted person, always saying, "I really want my MIL to like me."  I had apologized for her not likening him, but I stopped.  Now I ask him, "How can she like you when she doesn't even like her daughter?"  Two years ago, he joined the Air Force, just to get away.  We lived 2 minutes away, now we are 2000 miles away.  Yet, it hasn't changed much.  She loves to guilt us.  She calls incessantly.  And she talks badly about my husband, my choices, and how stupid I was to move away.  I left it all, she says, "your job, the money, your freedom, YOUR family."  I tell her over and over, "he is my husband.  X is my son.  This is my family, mom."  She blames me because our family get-togethers are not the same.  My DH and I are keeping her only grandchild from her!  She tells me how bad DH is with $$, how worthless he is, and how dirty we are!  These things are not true.  She just will say anything to be hurtful.  We are planning a trip there for our son's 1st birthday.  It has now been canceled.  We decided not to go about 2 months ago.  The way they fight over our son guilt trips us the whole time that we are there.  And, they manipulate every day of our visit.  We decided that we couldn't take it!  Everyone got very upset that we were not coming.  DH's mom offered to buy his plane ticket if my mom would pay for mine.  This turned into an awful fight!  After days of fighting, my DH called to tell her to butt out, and that we were not coming (and that she should back off).  She let him talk for 20 seconds, and hung up.  She called my entire family!  She told them a blown up story, and had them all pissed at him for being such an @ss hole.  The next morning she called (she always calls when he is gone!), crying her head off!  She told me "everything" he had said!  She LIED!  She asked me what she had done that was so wrong for God to punish her so badly by taking her daughter and grandson away?  After she turned down the waterworks, she told me to tell him that he should "NEVER CALL HER AGAIN".  Yesterday (2 day after), she called to tell me that I needed to get all my dolls and stuffed animals out of her attic (3 packed boxes, that were there for 7 years!), now that I have a house of my own!  She spoke with anger as she offered to ship them, and I could pay the charge.  Or, she would go through them and pick out the nice stuff.  I asked if we could wait till our next visit.  I would go through them, then, and fly home with what I wanted.  She agreed to that.  Then, she asked if I remembered that big, stupid bear DH had bought me (our first Xmas together).  I said, "Yes."  Well, she HAD to throw it away, something had gotten onto it.  It was too big to wash, so she threw it out.  "You didn't want that dirty thing!", she said.  I was shocked.  Stunned, I replied, "Well, thanks a lot," and told her that I had to go.  And, I hung up the phone.  I was heartbroken that she would do this.  My DH was very hurt  My bear was wrapped in plastic, packed in his own box.  She did this on purpose.  Just one more stone.  How do I handle a mother who hates ME and my DH.  I feel so torn, with all the guilt and manipulation.  Where do we go from here?

        Signed - Mommy Dearest

RESPONSE:  Mommy Dearest
Block her number, and don't take her calls.  Explain to the family members, whom you like, that she's bad for your mental health.  She won't be a part of your life now.  And, no matter what she says, she was the cause of the rift - not anyone else.  Her actions must have consequences.  How else will she ever learn?

RESPONSE:  Mommy Dearest
Buy Caller ID, and stop answering the phone.  If you wish to keeping communicating with her, do it only through email and letters.  Hurtful things are said much less often when they have to be written down.

RESPONSE:  Mommy Dearest
Hey, get yourself Caller ID, and stop taking calls from her.  I had to distance myself from my control freak mom, who sees nothing wrong with her behavior (it is very difficult, but well worth the results).  My house isn't clean enough, I don't dress well enough, etc., etc.  Well, I am much happier keeping her at a distance.  You let her have control over your life and feelings.  She only has as much power as you let her have.  People do not change - you can only change your reaction and attitude towards HER problem.  Talk to a counselor or a trusted non relative.  I speak from experience when I say that you will be much happier when you stop letting her hurt you!

RESPONSE:  Mommy Dearest
I feel so horrible for you.  My mother isn't as bad as yours, but I really do understand what you're going through.  Most people won't comprehend how you can cut your own mother out of your life, but that's what you need to do (at least for the immediate future).  Your mother is a sick woman, who will probably never get the help she needs - and that's what you need to keep in mind.  If she were anyone else, you wouldn't hesitate to cut someone that awful out of your life, would you?  Ignore the relatives as best you can.  These people really don't even know what a functional family should be like.  I keep telling myself that even a COW can give birth, but it takes a lot more than that to be a real MOTHER.  Try not to let people lay a guilt trip on you.  Trust your instincts, and stay away from her!  And most importantly, see a therapist/counselor to get the help you need.  I'm going to do that myself in the next month (as soon as my insurance kicks in), and I'm hoping to learn some better coping skills.  Just remember - your mother has mental problems, and they are NOT your fault.  You are NOT an awful person to want to stay away from someone who treats you like that.  She told you herself to never call her again - take her at her word!!!  You DO deserve better, and never let anyone tell you differently.  Best of luck to you.

RESPONSE:  Mommy Dearest
Block her from being able to call you.  Never visit her again.  Nobody who calls someone (especially their own child) a stupid b!tch deserves any bit of attention.  Cut off all contact with her, and watch your stress level go down!

RESPONSE:  Mommy Dearest
You've got a real nutcase on your hands.  I have a similar situation with my own mother, and I can imagine how hurt you feel.  I'm so sorry.  You cannot control your mom, but you are responsible for your influence on her life.  Please consider hanging up on her when she says ugly things about DH.  Tell her about this policy, and stick to it.  She'll figure it out if you are consistent.  As for visiting her, I would plan very limited time with her, and NEVER leave your child alone with her.  Always have an "escape plan" in place - have your car and a place to go, even if it's a hotel.  If she starts in on DH, get out of there.  Sorry about your things and your bear - my mom told me, 2 days before I got married and moved to a new city, that I needed to get all of my childhood things out of her house by the wedding day.  My family moved several times while I was growing up, and all the stuff was in boxes in her basement (and it had been for years).  Why did they have to be moved then?  This is a way for them to exert control.  I guess it seems pretty desperate.  On a hopeful note, my relationship with my mom is better now than it has ever been.  I think this is due to her mellowing with age (yours might too), distance, and especially my standing up for myself and my family.  You may find that your mother respects your strength better than you expect.

RESPONSE:  Mommy Dearest
Be thankful that you have someone who truly loves you, and get the toxic people who never cared out of your life.  In my opinion, based on my own life experiences, I would not risk hurting or losing a person who truly loves me, in order to keep a person who does not love me happy.

How's this for a witch of a MIL:  My husband (of 3 years) and I (unfortunately) shared a house with the MIL for a short time while we got on our feet financially.  During this time, she insinuated herself into our lives at every possible opportunity, plotting against us, and manipulating her son until I could stand it no longer.  Since he didn't have the balls to stand up to her, we ended up separating from the pressures of her mere presence in our lives.  During the separation, I was the one who gladly moved out.  During the process of moving, I naturally had to make several trips to remove my personal things.  On one occasion, the old battle ax happened to be home.  When I told her that I was there to collect some clothing, she proceeded to follow me all around my bedroom, snooping over my shoulder while I went through the closet and dressers.  This was all in the name of "protecting" her son (from what, I can't imagine).  I certainly didn't want his clothes!  Anyway, I told her that I was taking my stereo and my dog as well, and she just went ballistic!  She said that I had no right to take them (even though they were mine before I got married!), and she would not let me out of the door with them.  Of all the nerve!!  Anyway, I already knew there was no sense in arguing with her, so I made an excuse to go back to my bedroom, and quickly unlocked a window.  She hurried me out because she had to leave for an appointment.  I then drove around the block and parked where I could see her car leaving.  And, when it went by, I waited a few extra minutes and then returned to the house.  I climbed in the unlocked window, collected my stereo and my dog, and went on my way.  I knew there would soon be a phone call at the place I was staying, and boy, was there ever.  She called a couple of hours later in an out-and-out rage, ranting and raving that I'd broken into HER house, and she was going to call the POLICE!!  I just laughed at her, because she couldn't figure out how I had gotten back in (he, he, he).  Anyway, I told her to go ahead and call the police, because I was legally a tenant there who was only moving out my personal property - even her son would attest to that!  She never did call them, to my knowledge.  Or, if she did, they probably laughed at her, too.  Her son thought she'd gone psycho for sure this time, and he ended up moving out shortly after that.  I always get great satisfaction thinking back to that day, even though it was maddening and stressful at the time.  Another one of her all-time great maneuvers during this same time involved the fact that I had become pregnant just before my husband and I had decided to separate.  It was completely unplanned, but I was still thrilled.  When my husband finally worked up the nerve to tell his mother the news (4 months later), she had the audacity to call me and accuse me of getting pregnant on purpose to "TRAP" her son!!  For God sake's, we were already married!!  Then, she had the ultimate nerve to ask me if I was going to give "it" up for adoption!!!  Can you imagine??  This was her answer to the "problem" of what was going to be her first grandchild!!  Naturally, I told her to go to he!!, and I never spoke to her again.  I made darn sure after my DD was born, that this twisted lunatic never got near my child.  To this day (16 years later), she has never shown any interest in the child, which is more than fine with me!

        Signed - Survived A Looney

RESPONSE:  Survived A Looney
That's what I like to hear!  Good for you!

RESPONSE:  Survived A Looney
Good for you, I would have given her a knuckle sandwich myself.  Any woman (oh, excuse me - baby-woman) who would break up a marriage, will go to hell.  Remember, "Let no man put asunder….".   That means, do not break what God has joined together.  My MIL is so close to getting the sh!t kicked out of her, that it is pitiful.  Well, I wish you luck, and I think you are very lucky that your MIL doesn't come around.  I hope God blesses you and your family.

RESPONSE:  Survived A Looney
I was laughing sooooooo hard when I read how you got your stereo and your dog.  Three words:  GOOD FOR YOU!!!  I would love to slap my MIL in the face like that.  And, I'm glad that you haven't talked to her since that time.

I am beginning to really hate my PIL, and all of their family.  The longer I know them, the more they hurt and insult me.  They never even acknowledged my feelings, or that I have feelings.  But, then, they never acknowledged that they may hurt their own kids, either.  I now brace myself for any contact, and I know that I'm getting overly sensitive to their "remarks".  They may have immigrated here, but they make few concessions to living in another country.  They are unhappy that their son married outside their culture.  They let me know, at every possible opportunity, and they refuse to see that this country has a culture too.  Our son is only their culture.  He is not mine - in their eyes.  They exclude my family as much as possible, and when MIL doesn't get her own way, she'll talk to my mum in her overly emotional way (so that my mum will bug me as well).  So, I don't just have my MIL and FIL, but I also have my parents on my back.  DH, I know, is a wimp.  He's never going to change, but I love him and cannot leave him.  I am already getting stressed about Mother's Day - I really think it should be renamed Grandmother's Day, because it certainly isn't about being a mother (but, it is about being a MIL who everyone should cater to).  We try to take turns with our families.  However, mine travels a lot for business, and even if it's my family's turn, we still have to visit MIL and her family the next day or that evening.  If it's my family's turn, they'll just catch up with us when it's convenient for us.  MIL will get emotional (with tears threatening to spill over) and remind us of all the other relatives who will be there, and that she's already rearranged it all for them to come when we'll be free (from my family).  And, that we'll be disappointing all these 50 to 100+ people who expect to see her son and her grandson.  She also treats my son as her own, taking over whenever possible.  I may say no to some things (because I feel that it's inappropriate, unsafe, or we're already busy), but she'll phone DH and get the answer she wants anyway.  And, she'll also do things behind our backs as well.  And, she'll tell our son of some "big treat", and give him gifts before asking us, so that we're put on the spot, and can't say no, because it's too late.  The gifts used to be so out of control.  Every week there would be bags of clothes and toys, and we live in a small house with little storage.  I, finally, had to be really very, very rude to stop it (even after asking nicely several times).  The only way to get through is to be really rude, and then I'm made out to be the bad guy.  She hates me not working - she would give up work, for us to save on childcare.  And, even though it's DH who really doesn't want me to work, she considers me to be lazy and selfish.  She hates where we live, despite it being a wealthier area than hers (and, it has much, much lower crime, with better schools).  She considers it to be my choice, despite both DH and I telling her that it's really more DH than I who wants to live here.  She would prefer that we live closer, so that she has better access to DH and our son.  She has been caught out in lies, and still denies it.  She blames my "imagination", or she says that I must have misheard her or her version of English (despite the fact that she has a high-level job as a manager, and she has been living here for at least 32 years).  And, she has a superior attitude to anyone who is not of their culture - so, she really looks down on me and my family (like they are the kings and we are the peasants).  This woman, who rules her family, and the rest of her family, drives me insane.  They think they are true Christians (only their church has the best Christians), and that we're all rubbish.  They lie, manipulate, and are racist.  And, they think that everyone must envy them for being such wonderful people, when, really, people eventually wake up to how two-faced they are.  They have no friends outside of family members, and now I know why.  They think every family member looks up to them and loves them.  I could say so much more about how they don't speak English when I'm at family gatherings, so that the only "people" I'm permitted to speak to are children and teenagers (and I'm in my 30's).  They've thrown birthday parties for our son, and not invited us, or even my family.  MIL's feelings have been "hurt" many times because I didn't give in.  Every occasion is to be celebrated at MIL's or one of her relatives, and she can't come to our house (saving us a journey now and then) because I deprive her of her house.  And, she tells me that I'm the reason that DH is going to die soon (because I'm not making him follow his culture - something that he hadn't done for years before I met him).  She tells me how my son is going to hate and resent me for all my life, because I refuse to make him follow "his" culture (notice that there is no concession that our son has a background of 2 cultures - to MIL there is only one).  DH knows how I feel.  I've had to let it loose every now and then.  He can't understand why they upset me, and why anything should bother me or hurt me.  He's a really lazy sh!t, and doesn't mind when his parents take over.  For him, it's easier to give in than to stand up to his parents.  And, it's hard for him to see the line that separates parents and grandparents, as his grandparents brought him up because both his parents worked full-time (being new to this country).  I know that I'm not perfect, and I certainly know that my own family can be pains in the neck as well, but his family really takes the cake.  If I didn't love DH so much (and I know how hurt he'd be by it), I'd really tell them what I think of them.  Thanks for letting me vent.

        Signed - I Am Beginning to Really Hate Them

RESPONSE:  I Am Beginning to Really Hate Them
I don't have any particularly great advice.  However, I had a similar problem with my parents refusing to come to our house for any parties or such.  I finally offered to host a holiday (Thanksgiving).  They refused to come to our house, but asked us to come to theirs.  We simply refused, and didn't see them at all.  Since then, I've hosted 2 parties and 2 holidays at my house.  If you can get your husband to stand with you on this one, it should work.


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