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frequent fry her - MsInconsiderate 1 of 4 needed Frequent Fry Her TM - MsInconsiderate 1 of 4 needed/Posted: 1-JUN-02
DH and I had just remodeled our living room.  We took a lot of time doing this, picking just the right things.  And, it took a while, because we were on a very limited budget.  Well, MIL had come over every once in a while to see the progress, which was fine.  I loved doing everything on our own, and was really pleased with the results.  And, I was happy to show people.  We did a very different look.  For those of you who watch "Trading Spaces", it was a very "Hildy" inspired look (with lots of black, and lots of accent pieces in gold and red).  It is very dramatic, and I love it!  Well, when we were all finished, MIL brought us a gift for the new room.  I thought it was very nice of her.  We had gone shopping together a couple of times.  She had seen some inexpensive things that I had wanted to get, but was waiting until we had the money for them.  So, I was hoping that the gift would be one of those.  No such luck.  What I got was a white teddy bear, wearing a dress that MIL had sewn using "our colors".  Well, the dress was black with red hearts, and frilly red lace all over.  How hideous!  And, MIL knows that I HATE hearts.  They're just really not my style.  Well, the bear has been conveniently "lost" in a safe hiding place.  That way, if MIL makes too big of a stink about it, I can "find" it.  But, maybe when it's found, it will be too deformed to put on display!

        Signed - MsInconsiderate

( I want my own Frequent Fry Her TM Page )

RESPONSE:  MsInconsiderate
Are you sure she knows you hate hearts?  Sometimes people just don't "get it" about what other people like.  I thought everybody liked hearts - maybe I've given heart-themed gifts to people who hate them too!

RESPONSE:  MsInconsiderate
I would just put the teddy bear out when MIL visits, and put it away (in a closet somewhere) as soon as she leaves (at least for a while).  I think she went through quite a bit of trouble trying to please you, even though it sounds like your taste and hers are not alike.

RESPONSE:  MsInconsiderate
So far, I fail to see what your gripe with MIL is.  It sounds like her heart was in the right place.  A home is about love and comfort, not some material inspired decoration scheme.  It should be a reflection of the heart.  What did it hurt for her to give you a gift of love?  It sounds like she was being very supportive of your color choices.  Do what I do - put that thing in the closet, and bring it out when she is over.

frequent fry her - MsInconsiderate 2 of 4 needed Frequent Fry Her TM - MsInconsiderate 2 of 4 needed/Posted: 1-JUN-02
My ILs waste every bit of money that they manage to save, on multilevel marketing schemes.  They are trying to get DH and I to join in on the newest one.  Well, to appease them, I read through the information on the new "company", and it was bullsh!t!  There was no way I was going to put any of our hard earned money into this.  Well, FIL will not accept that this is something that we do not want to participate in.  He continues calling the house, leaving messages (we have caller id, and when DH isn't home, I usually don't answer unless I know it's for me - and if the IL's are calling, it's never for me) that tell us that we need to get our papers in, and to get started, etc.  It really frustrates DH, and me as well.  I suggested that he just come right out and say that it's something that we don't want to do, and be very direct about it.  I know that if we don't put a stop to it now, it will never end.  DH doesn't want to do that, because the ILs will get mad at us.  But, until he stands up to them, they assume that I'm the reason we're not "in on it".  Their view is that I won't let DH "get rich" (their words).  I know this, because they say the same thing about BIL's wife.  I'm very frustrated with this situation.  I know the ILs will be mad, and maybe this is selfish, but I'd rather they be upset with both of us, since it is both of us who made the decision.  MIL and FIL are very controlling and manipulative, and it needs to stop.  DH agrees with this, but doesn't want to take any action.  I feel that because it is his family, the responsibility lies with him.  I would not ask him to stand up to my parents.  What can I do?  I know that if I am the one to confront them, it will turn into a war (which I really don't want),  But at times, the thought of cutting off communication is enticing.

        Signed - If I Confront Them, It Will Turn Into A War

( I want my own Frequent Fry Her TM Page )

RESPONSE:  If I Confront Them, It Will Turn Into A War
This is DH's problem.

RESPONSE:  If I Confront Them, It Will Turn Into A War
Call them at a time that you know they won't be home.  Leave a message on the machine saying that you AND DH have decided not to participate.  The deed will be done, and no one gets yelled at.  If they call DH to discuss, all he has to say is, "That's right."  I usually take the easy way out!

RESPONSE:  If I Confront Them, It Will Turn Into A War
I cannot believe that DH is making you the bad guy on this!  I think you should really talk with him about how he would feel if the situation were reversed.  He is not protecting you.  And, even further, he is WIMPING OUT on his role as husband.  And, don't you DARE give those kooks any money for a crazy scheme!

RESPONSE:  If I Confront Them, It Will Turn Into A War
Try asking DH this, "You don't want to tell them no, so you are willing to be rude and ignore them?  They are calling and leaving messages, because they are assuming that you want to do this.   I am sure that they have better things to do with their time.  If it were me, I would be mad that someone didn't just come right out and say that they are not interested, instead of making me think that I need to keep calling and reminding."  What is the problem?  DH can't take their temper?  Do they hit when they are mad?  Do they say horrible things that DH thinks he can't handle?  There is a very wise saying, "A coward dies a hundred deaths, a hero only one," and it applies here.  Every time DH hides from his parents and acts like a child (avoiding saying things that will make them mad), he is dying another "little death" inside.  IMHO, he needs to get it over with and be honest.  And then you two can get on with your lives!

RESPONSE:  If I Confront Them, It Will Turn Into A War
Wow, you have my sympathy.  Could you just hook up the answering machine to take FIL's calls?  Just let him prattle on - you don't need to confront him yourself if your DH won't do it.  He can't FORCE you to sign up.  Just humor him, and don't sign up!  I hope some of the other respondents have better advice.  You sure have my sympathy.  Those multilevel marketers can be a real pain in the rear, especially when they're indoctrinated to think they're "helping people", and that you're going to "get rich".  Yeah, when pigs fly, in most cases!  I never had family involved in those schemes (and fortunately, my in-laws are as skeptical of them as we are!), but we've had acquaintances who really put pressure on us.  Oddly, we always seemed to have a lot more money than they did!  One of them would disparage my job (it was better than any she had, come to think of it), while trying to get me to sign on with one of her schemes, implying that I'd never do well until I did.  But, I had a good job with good benefits, while she was scrambling for money every way she could.  It's a pain, I know, and I'm sorry your in-laws are putting so much pressure on you.  I hope you can just blow them off and avoid them as much as possible.  I guess your DH could always say, "Let's see if YOU get rich first.  Then if you do, maybe we'll sign on."  Fat chance!

RESPONSE:  If I Confront Them, It Will Turn Into A War
Why don't you confront them together?  I would speak with DH first about what you two want to say.  Let him say it, and then back him up.  If he starts to waver, step in.  Get the point across that while you wish them the best with their venture, you and DH aren't interested.  And, you both would appreciate them not pressuring you two to join.  I personally think your ILs are very rude to keep harassing you with phone calls.  If they get mad, that's their problem.  Good luck!

RESPONSE:  If I Confront Them, It Will Turn Into A War
Tell your DH that if he won't tell them that both of you agree not to get involved in the marketing schemes, you will.  Then, if it turns out that you need to tell them, do so on the phone.  That way, if the conversation gets too ugly, tell them that you have to go, and hang up.  Just make it clear that both you and DH have discussed it, and neither of you is interested.  It sounds like they will not give up on the idea of you being involved, so someone needs to take a stand and let them know your feelings.  Good luck!

When I was 20, I made the mistake of marrying my husband (who has now become my ex-husband).  But I swear, the stuff that his family did is just unbelievable.  At the beginning, as it always is, they are all over you.  He was also 20, and we were each other's first "real" relationship.  As a wedding present, his parents gave us some money.  It was quite a bit, and I was thinking, "Wow, how nice," until I realized that this money is what my ex-hubby used to give his mum each week.  She always said that he had to pay his way (by the way, he was 15 when he started giving his mommy money - about 50 bucks a week).  So married life started.  Of course being from an Italian family, at our wedding we got heaps of cash and a lot of help from my parents.  My ex-hubby is Australian, what a clash!!  My parents doubled the cash that the guests gave us.  And also, because we did not have a house, they gave us one of their houses to live in, asking us to pay only 200 bucks a month in rent.  WELL, when MIL heard this, she starting accusing my parents of trying to buy hubby's love, and started in on my mother, saying how she was a stupid Italian, blah, blah, blah.  She would pick fights with my mum on the silliest things.  We could never leave them in a room together because, I swear, there would end up being a boxing match.  She always had to be involved in our business.  For example, a couple of months into our marriage, we got a bill for the water and gas.  As everyone knows, the first bill is always high.  So, hubby rings up mummy and daddy, and asked if it is normal, and could they please ring up the company and see what the problem was.  HELLO.  I am your wife.  You ask ME.  His mum then started giving him all this advice, and I got so mad at her.  She had the gall to say that, because he never lived on his own, she is "here to help him".  HE IS MARRIED!!!!  But wait, it did not end there.  When we decided to buy a car, he actually wanted his parents to come and approve the car!!  When I told this to my parents, they flipped.  When I asked my mum if she would come as well, she actually said to me that I was an adult, and I should start making my own decisions.  It sounds harsh, but she had a point.  He actually had the gall to put the name of the car in HIS parent's name, so we could pay LESS insurance.  My mum totally flipped at that one.  As you know, after a year an a half of MIL, and FIL (who was actually quite sweet), butting into our business, I told hubby to leave.  To this day (we are 28 now), he still lives at home, and is still babied by his mother.  Whereas, I moved to Italy, and have found a great guy.  The one good thing is that we live in northern of Italy, and BF's family is in the South.  We see each other a couple of months a year, and we see my family maybe once every two years.  Life is PERFECT!  We have NO interference from EITHER side.

        Signed - Hoping It Stays This Way!!!!!!

RESPONSE:  Hoping It Stays This Way!!!!!!
I'm glad you got out of that relationship.  My ex used to always run every little thing by his mother and his two sisters before he'd make a decision (what I wanted never counted - that's one of the reasons he's now an ex).  One thing I do hope you learned, though (as I did), is to not drag your parents into your problems.  The more people you involve in your marital problems, the worse they get!  It sounds like you've grown up!  Best wishes with your new boyfriend!

RESPONSE:  Hoping It Stays This Way!!!!!!
That sounds great - more power to you!  A similar story with a different ending:  It was exactly the same when we got married - my DH had moved right from his parents' home where they took care of EVERYTHING.  And our marriage, very frustratingly, started out very much as you describe (except that my in-laws and my parents did get along fine).  My DH would go to them for everything, and they were always eager to jump in and take care of things for him.  It drove me up the wall!  During our first year of marriage, I heard my MIL telling him (typically), "WE'LL do YOUR TAXES."  It made me furious - why couldn't I do our taxes?!  Well, to make a long story short, I DID do our taxes.  And, slowly but surely, we trained them to butt out.  They have really backed off A LOT, are much more respectful, and rarely lapse back into interfering and treating DH like their little boy.  To their credit, I guess they are pretty decent people who were just breaking a longtime habit of taking care of their only child.  Now I need to break the habit of complaining about them.  This is even harder, it seems, because even though there have been absolutely NO offenses lately, I'm in the habit of looking for them.  And, I am addicted to checking into this web site every single day!  So, I guess they're better people than I am.

frequent fry her - AngelFace 1 of 4 needed Frequent Fry Her TM - AngelFace 1 of 4 needed/Posted: 1-JUN-02
DH is out of town for the next three weeks, so MIL has been calling periodically to "check on me".  She called the other night, and we talked for a while.  Or, I should say, she talked about herself, and I nodded and said, "Uh, huh," at intervals, while watching TV.  Anyway, then MIL asked me if I have spoken to my family (long story, but my immediate family and I are not speaking), and I said, "No."  I was telling her the latest news that I had (from an aunt) about them.  She then started lecturing me about how I should be mature enough to get over my hard feelings, and just forgive my mother, because mothers aren't perfect, as I will soon find out, etc.  First of all, she was very condescending.  As if I was an idiot who didn't understand the big words coming out of her mouth.  Then, I only shared the info of my family because she asked.  I did not ask for her opinion, nor did I want it.  Also, she doesn't even know the whole story.  I never told them what went on, and DH hates to relive the whole stupid situation.  So, she was opening her mouth, and inserting her foot.  Basically, my mother thinks I was born to be her doormat - to do anything she asks, whenever she asks it, and with a smile.  She hates my DH, and makes no beans about it.  She wants complete control over our lives, and I won't let her have it.  So, she has decided that I am an ungrateful, selfish, b!tch of a daughter.  She has poisoned my father and siblings against me, and tried to influence the rest of the family (thankfully, they are all smarter than that!).  Anyway, what really bugs me about MIL is that she has no room to talk about relationships with mothers.  She hates her mother.  Her mother treats her like dirt, and MIL is always complaining and saying that she's just not gonna take it anymore.  And then she always does.  I am really tired of people telling me that I should just forgive and forget, and go back to being my mother's doormat.  WHY?  So that when I am 45, and my kids are grown, I can poison their minds with all my venomous talk about my mother - like MIL?  All 3 of her kids hate going to see her mom, but she forces them to (or at least tries, in DH's case).  Or, so that I can be miserable for the rest of my life, while my mother treats me like dirt?  No way.  Why is it so hard for MIL to understand that I am gonna do this my own way, not her way?  Also, DH just applied for a new job in his hometown (right now we are in different states).  So if he gets it, we will be moving to their state at the end of the year.  I am 5 moths pregnant, and due in October (it's a girl!).  And MIL is convinced that we will be there before the baby is born.  I told her, that it is not until November or December, but she is insistent that I am wrong.  DH asked FIL to help us find a house (when we find out if we are going or not), and he's agreed.  MIL apparently thinks that we want to live next door to them, and is trying to convince DH that the house next door to them (which is for sale/lease) would be perfect for us.  I DON'T THINK SO!!!!  Thankfully, DH doesn't think so either.  J.  I have very mixed feelings about this prospective move - I wanted to get out of here for a while, but also don't want to be stuck in the state with the ILs forever (especially if I hate it).  MIL, of course, is pushing for us to buy a house, and settle in for the long haul.  She needs to back off a little, and just let us decide what's best for us.  Of course, whatever is decided, it will be my fault.  She has already decided that I have brainwashed DH to make him stay here in my hometown, instead of running back to her state at the earliest opportunity.  What she doesn't get, is that the only reason we are even contemplating this move is because I've wanted to get out of here for a while!  DH is perfectly happy here, and most of the time, he has to be reminded to even call his family.

        Signed - She Thinks I Am the Bad Guy!

( I want my own Frequent Fry Her TM Page )

RESPONSE:  She Thinks I Am the Bad Guy!
"Or, I should say, she talked about herself, and I nodded and said, 'Uh, huh,'".  I hear ya!  My MIL is the exact same way.  I don't think I've ever carried on a two way conversation with her.

RESPONSE:  She Thinks I Am the Bad Guy!
Next time your MIL asks about your family, tell her you would rather not talk about it.  You are right.  She should not be telling you what you should or shouldn't do where your family is concerned.  That is your decision.  Also, good luck if you move to her hometown.  Things are bound to get even more interesting after your baby is born!

RESPONSE:  She Thinks I Am the Bad Guy!
Quit reminding him to call his faaaaamily.  And, even though it was none of her damn business, I would have told MIL the WHOLE story with the total ugly facts!!!  Get caller ID and an answering machine, and reconsider a move!!

RESPONSE:  She Thinks I Am the Bad Guy!
My MIL is the same way, always having to get her two cents in - in a very disrespectful way.  And, she always implies that I'm wrong.  It's gotten to the point that I don't confide ANYTHING in her anymore (I'd never tell her if I was having problems with ANYONE) because she always thinks it's my fault automatically.  And, she comes right out and says, condescendingly, "I wonder what I'd think," or, "I wonder how I'd get along with that person," implying that it's just because I'm not good at getting along with people.  Sometimes, I'm tempted to say the same thing when SHE'S complaining about someone, but I don't want to stoop to her level.  Whatever you do, don't live next door to your MIL!  Thank god your husband doesn't want to either.  It sounds like you are very patient with her.  She's really out of line by giving you such aggressive, unsolicited advice.  My only thought would be for you to be really friendly, in a very superficial way.  Just evade all her probing questions with a pleasant, light remark or a laugh.  That's been working for me.  And boy, did I learn the hard way.  P.S.  Avoid her as much as possible!

RESPONSE:  She Thinks I Am the Bad Guy!
Stop reminding him to call his family.  And stop chatting with MIL.  That was 2 of the hardest lessons I had to learn.  Mother's Day just went by, and I never said a word - and DH didn't call MIL.  After a couple of years, I learned, and my MIL started to complain that I never told her anything.  That was because after she did things like you are describing, I learned not to give her any ammunition.  Her only ammunition became, "DIL never talks to meeeee!"


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