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frequent fry her - Dystopia4u, 4 of 4 needed
Frequent Fry Her TM - Dystopia4u, 4 of 4 needed/Posted: 17-JUN-03
Last year, when I was 8 months pregnant with my DD, I had to be on bed rest due to high blood pressure and premature contractions.  I was told that I couldn't have more children due to the chemotherapy, so the baby was a wonderful surprise!  I have had issues with MIL in the past, and I don't think it's okay for her to be alone with DD.  MIL knows this, and she decided to take advantage of my condition and hatch a scheme.  She sneaked around me through my husband.  She bellyached about how much she missed my DD, and how it would be nice for her to fly DD up for a visit.  She said that we could join her after I'd had some rest (after my other DD was born).  She told him it would give him a chance to bond with our new DD and give our older DD a chance to visit with cousins and GPs.  And then DH, new DD and I could all fly up with the baby.  What really shocked me was that DH fell for it.  During dinner, he told our 9 year old DD that her GM was flying her up for a visit right after her DS was born, and that mom and dad would come up with the baby after a little while.  She was, of course, all excited, and couldn't wait to go.  I had never badmouthed MIL to DD, so she didn't realize that there were tensions between MIL and me.  After DD went to bed, I had it out with DH.  I was furious that he hadn't even consulted with me.  DH told me that he didn't want to upset me in my condition.  Pffft!  DH had already agreed to let DD go, and the ticket was already paid for.  So, DD went to see MIL two weeks after I had the baby, and three weeks after that we went up to MIL's.  MIL acted like a creep when we were there, and finally showed her true colors to my DH by screaming at my husband on a 20 minute tirade on his cell-phone (we left her house because of her abuse).  I could hear every awful and mean-spirited word that she said about me.  Two days later, after I cooled off, I sat down with her and I told MIL exactly where her place was and that I was shutting her down.  Her days of bullying me and my family were over.  We went home, and I've been keeping MIL on a short leash ever since.  And, DD will never, nor does she want to, go to MIL's house alone again.  I just wish I'd shut the old dragon down years sooner.  Thanks for letting me get all this out of my system!

        Signed - MIL=Woman Hitler

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frequent fry her - Not a Peach Toaster-Cozy Fan, 3 of 4 needed Frequent Fry Her TM - Not a Peach Toaster-Cozy Fan, 3 of 4 needed/Posted: 16-JUN-03
I like to read other people's stories so that I know that I'm not alone as far as extremely insane MILs go.  Currently, my DH and I live with my parents, due to circumstances beyond our control (including my DH's health).  And, we visit his parents about twice a month, as we will be moving far away and won't be able to see each other as much in the near future.  I know it will be better for us when we get some space between us and the ILs (although SIL and BIL are normal).  But, I do have a lot of stories about my insane MIL.  I have a very good memory as far as remembering conversations and events, but I would love it if I could forget some of the cr@p she's pulled.  I realize that I am lucky, in the respect that my DH can be objective and see how incredibly inappropriate/rude his mother can be - she's been criticizing everything he does his whole life, so he knows better than me what she can be capable of.  The worst story to date happened only a week ago.  My MIL waited until the other ILs left the house so that only she, my DH and I were at her home.  My DH was lying down, as he has health problems that leave him feeling easily fatigued, amongst other things (but nothing life threatening).  It has been hard on him and everyone around him, and the last thing he needs is excessive stress.  MIL decided that she "needed to get things out in the open", and started throwing a temper tantrum by stomping around and yelling at DH for allowing the little hairs from a hair cut to get all over her perfectly clean kitchen's white tile floor.  These were a few tiny hairs that wouldn't normally be visible to the average human eye, unless you were specifically searching for them.  I had given him a hair cut with clippers in the basement washroom, like I had 20 times before.  No notice was ever taken of the tiny hairs, and, of course, we cleaned up after ourselves to minimize any transfer.  Anyway, I stood up for him and told her that he'd had a shower.  She then started in on me about not helping her keep her house clean and doing chores like I had apparently promised (which I didn't).  "I shouldn't have to ask," she repeated.  I replied to this by pointing out that I always put my dishes in the dishwasher.  I used to do more or volunteer more in the past, but she's soooo psycho about her house being just "so".  Chores in her house have to be done her way, at a certain time of day, or she'll freak out and yell and scream at everyone.  It was too self defeating for me to continually set myself up for her to correct me or yell at me for not doing things her way.  This turned into an ugly exchange of her wild accusations of what a terrible person I am, and how everything is my fault.  I followed by defending myself, and she downplayed/explained away my replies so that she was still right and I was wrong.  She told me that I run away from all my problems, I never take responsibility, I'm secretive, I've been in competition with her over DH "since the second I stepped foot in her door", I don't talk enough, and I read too much (therefore, my life is incredibly boring, and she feels sorry for me).  If I had written this a week ago, there would probably have been a lot more swearing.  None of this is true, of course.  I'm waiting for immigration to approve me for a green card, so I'm stuck at my parent's until I can cross the border.  She's still pissed off because DH and I didn't live with them when DH took a medical leave and came to be with me for the last 6 months.  And, she tried to keep us hostage (so to speak) at her place.  I called my parents to come and pick us up.  I can be shy at times, but I really have nothing that I want to chat about with her.  She is sooo judgmental, and she automatically dispenses her 2 cents of advice or opinion, whether it's wanted or not.  So, this whole terrible argument left my DH crying and me super mad, just when I thought I couldn't possibly hate her anymore.  The saddest part is that she picked a fight with me on purpose at the expense of my DH.  She had the sickest, smug smile on her face during the argument, and she didn't shut up until DH said that all these misunderstandings are his fault because he doesn't communicate well.  He knows that this is not true, but that was what she was looking to hear so she could bully him further.  An hour after the argument, she said to DH, "I'm so glad that we had that talk today."  DH didn't want to leave, because he was flying out the next morning and wanted to say good-bye to his siblings, although ...

        Signed - I Don't Know Why I Didn't Insist

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AAACK!  I don't know how to deal with my FMIL anymore.  She becomes the issue of my boyfriend's and my arguments.  She is a widowed, 70 year old woman.  She let herself get fat and sick (but she eats cr@p, and a lot of her pains are from her own doing).  She is TOO DEPENDENT on my boyfriend for everything.  When we have plans for an afternoon, she calls and says that we have to stop by her place for something that she needs "help with", like fixing the screen door, trimming the lawn, whatever she can come up with.  This woman is perfectly capable of doing these things by herself.  To top it off, my boyfriend's son lives in the basement, and does NOTHING to help, and my boyfriend doesn't do anything about it.  My BF and I are talking about marriage, but I don't want a marriage to someone who is married to his mother.  Maybe we should get married and move to another state?  The thing is that he doesn't see a problem with his mother.

        Signed - Discouraged

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
Run, run, run!  Mama's boy alert!  Mama's boy alert!  Unless he puts a foot down now, it'll never happen.  Can you live with that?

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
Don't marry him.

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
RUN!  Run like the wind!  Why are you staying with this man?????

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
Maybe you'll have a legitimate gripe when you are seventy years old and still mowing the lawn.

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
Your BF's 70 year old mother needs/expects help?  What a b!tch!  Gee, with your big heart, I hope you can find someone to hire when you are old.  Surely you won't expect your children to inconvenience their spouses for you.  BTW, I don't think that BF should marry YOU!

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
I wouldn't marry him at all.  If you marry and move away, it will just be more expensive when "mommy" calls, because he'll have to travel to come to her rescue.  If you think the phone calling is bad now, wait until you're out of arm's reach.

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
If he doesn't see a problem with his mother, then the problem is with HIM.  If you want someone more independent, you might have to look elsewhere.  Seventy isn't that old.  You might be stuck with her at least another 10!  Good luck.

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
RUN, RUN, RUN, AND DON'T STOP UNTIL YOU HIT THE WATER.  He won't change.  And if he thinks there's nothing wrong with altering your plans because mommy wants him to do something, IT WILL NEVER CHANGE.

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
It sounds as if BF is older (has a son living in GM's basement).  If he doesn't see a problem with it by now, he never will.  You will never come first.  He's done it this long.  He can't be changed if he doesn't see anything wrong with it.  Good luck.

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
I think you've supplied your own answer.  He doesn't see a problem with her behavior and his son won't help, even though he lives there.  Please explain why you would even consider marrying this mama's boy??

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
I feel your pain.  Well, the good thing is that you haven't married this guy yet.  Please think about whether or not you want to deal with this for the rest of your life.  We had the same problems with my DH's parents.  The fact that he was willing to really LISTEN to me about it, and the idea that I felt like we were on the same side, made all the difference.  If your BF doesn't care enough about how you feel (and you aren't being a b!tch to mind your MIL's excessive, self-indulgent dependence!), maybe it's time for you to entertain the possibility that spending your life with this guy might be too miserable.  There are other guys out there.  You'd be amazed at the possibilities that your future holds.  It's lonelier being with the wrong person than being by yourself.  I'm not sure that your BF isn't the right person, but he needs to wake up and prove this to you.  And he needs a real attitude adjustment if he wants you to seriously think of marrying him.

RESPONSE:  Discouraged
My MIL is the same way.  She's divorced and used to depend on my DH for everything.  When he and his siblings used to live with her, she treated DH like a surrogate husband.  She needed him to go shopping with her, would ask his opinion for disciplining her other children, would expect that he enforce the discipline, etc.  She would throw tantrums if he didn't help out, but requested nothing from the other siblings.  After we got married, she would call both of us separately to see what he was doing, if he was going to be in her area, etc., so that he could do some chore for her.  Sometimes he would go if it was convenient for us, but more likely than not, he would tell her no.  In my opinion, there's a very fine line between being a helpful, nice person, and being taken advantage of.  Your BF's son should help out since he is staying in the same house as her.  However, your BF needs to be able to turn his mother down when she's requesting things that are unreasonable.  If he can't do this, your best bet would just be to move on, because things will get worse.

I am sitting here near tears because I am not sure where I can even begin.  My MIL has done so many hurtful, hateful things.  She is too self-centered to be a mother.  It is no small wonder that my husband is the most giving person whom I have ever known.  He comes from the most demanding witch I have ever met.  She demands respect, but gives none.  She is vulgar and manipulative.  She takes joy in creating problems between DH and me.  She strikes out and then plays the victim.  She is unreliable, at best, and I wish I had married an orphan.  I am DIL to Hydra, the many headed monster from Greek mythology.

        Signed - DIL to Hydra

RESPONSE:  DIL to Hydra
If my DH were not an only child, I would swear that you and I shared the same MIL.

RESPONSE:  DIL to Hydra
I am the DIL to Medusa.  Too bad that b!tch won't turn to stone!  Bwwahahahahahahahaha!

RESPONSE:  DIL to Hydra
You can only hope that your DH sees her for what she is in the near future.  Good luck.

RESPONSE:  DIL to Hydra
Copy your story exactly.  I know how you feel.  Stand up for yourself and fight for your respect, if DH won't.

RESPONSE:  DIL to Hydra
I feel like I could have written your post!  My MIL is the same way.  She is extremely self centered, very manipulative and conniving, and seems to enjoy causing problems between my DH and I.  My MIL is also very superficial, all she cares about is $!!!!  A neighbor of hers recently committed suicide.  He was widow/divorcee with grown children, and he was a dentist.  My MIL actually had to audacity to say, "I don't know why he committed suicide.  He was a dentist and was rich!"  I couldn't believe it!  I told her that money isn't everything.  She responded with, "Maybe so, but I know that if I was rich (she is already well off - I think that driving around in a luxury car doesn't qualify her as poor), I would have no problems."  I just couldn't believe it!  How can a woman who is almost sixty to have such poor values and put such high priorities on money and looks?  It is rather sad.  I just can't believe that she is such a shallow person!  I would say that 90% of our arguments stem from MIL, and about 100% of the time after we have visited her (or she visits us), we always get into an argument concerning her.  She is also very demanding.  She demands lots of attention, and likes to have her ego stroked.  Yet, she treats most everyone around her like dirt (except for her perfect sons, my SIL and I are always the ones blamed if something goes wrong), and can't seem to figure out why she has no friends, and nobody likes to be around her!  My DH, like yours, is very kind and generous.  Everyone who knows him likes him.  I still cannot understand how he could have been raised by somebody as evil as my MIL, and have turned out the way he did!  My sympathies to you.  It really stinks when you have a MIL like that!


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