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My MIL is a divorcee with three adult children and two granddaughters.  My husband is the only one of her children who left town after becoming adult, and he has no desire to return "home" again.  I, on the other hand, have always wanted to live near my own parents when I have kids.  My husband likes my parents, likes the city where they now live, and is perfectly happy with trying that.  This year, he is doing his medical internship and had an opportunity to work at a hospital that is an hour from his mother's home.  It's the first that time he's lived in the same state as his mom since moving away more than 10 years ago.  He loves being near his grandmother again, but his mom drives him nuts.  She has not stopped nagging him to stay from day one, even though he has made it perfectly clear that there's no chance in he!! of that happening.  Now that we're expecting our first child - due months after we'll be moving away - she has gone into high gear and begun openly criticizing my family.  She keeps saying that my husband and I will have no privacy because my dad is "overbearing", and that our "poor children" won't have any cousins to play with, because my only sister is gay.  She thinks that there are too many people who are not her race where we're moving.  It's heinous.  She didn't even congratulate us on the pregnancy, and she informed me last night that she's going to need to keep "somewhat detached from this" (our pregnancy), since, as she put it, she is going to be a complete stranger to this grandchild.  All we can do is go out of our way to make sure that she knows that we are not going to let that happen.  I lived far away from my grandparents, too, but I'm very close with them.  When I told my MIL this, she implied that I wouldn't understand what it's like to be close with a grandparent.  It makes me crazy how she looks down her nose at my family, although my husband has pointed out that his mother doesn't seem to like anyone but her own family.  I feel so awful for my husband, as he didn't receive so much as an "I'm happy for you!" from her.  I'm trying to be an adult about this, and let her know that I understand that she's hurt, but that my wanting to be with my family is a dynamic that she should be able to understand.  She says that she does understand, but then she hauls off another insult at my dad when I'm least expecting it, and says things like, "Don't have a boy.  Have a girl.  Boys always leave."  Then, she frowns at my husband.  She's so bitter, and such a martyr, and she is so full of it since her other son lives right up the street and will probably never move away.  I don't want to fight with her, but I don't want to let her run me over.  I think it's reasonable for me to spend a minimal amount of time with her during my pregnancy and up until we leave.  She's just giving me unnecessary stress, and my husband says he's perfectly happy to keep her at bay.

        Signed - Caught In A Cliché

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Worst gift:  Last Christmas, we were invited to my IL's house for the day.  I brought gifts for everyone, including SIL (a mug filled with assorted hot chocolate/tea mixes) and BIL (dried apricots with half of each dipped in good chocolate).  I'd also brought gifts for their adult children - homemade banana/nut bread for bachelor DNephew, and friendship soup mix for unmarried DNiece.  None had gifts for me and DH (okay by me), but SIL gave the following to my four adult sons:  packages of cheap cookies with expired pull dates that were presented in wrinkled paper bags!  These were hidden way back under the tree, and weren't "presented" until after they had received and opened their gifts.  Sheesh!

        Signed - DisgustedSIL

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Well, I have just given birth to a very beautiful baby boy, but my ILs have not even called once to ask how mom and baby are doing.  There was no congratulations, no card, no gift.  I find all of this very odd, since they had about 25 people up at the hospital with our oldest child.  They bombarded me, and ended up making my whole birth experience miserable.  I was really thankful that I had this baby 1,000 miles away from them.  But a phone call would have been nice.

        Signed - Thankful That We Moved

RESPONSE:  Thankful That We Moved
Consider yourself lucky.  The less that you see of them, the happier you will be.

RESPONSE:  Thankful That We Moved
Sheesh.  Complain when they show up, complain when they don't.

RESPONSE:  Thankful That We Moved
So would a REAL HUSBAND, who would stand up for you against these terrible ILs!

RESPONSE:  Thankful That We Moved
You can't have everything.  And, if the choice is between 25 people at the hospital and no card or phone call, take the lack of acknowledgment.

RESPONSE:  Thankful That We Moved
Maybe they realized how miserable it was when you had your last one, and are waiting for you to call them and let them know it is ok for them to come around?

RESPONSE:  Thankful That We Moved
If they live so far away, how did they know when the baby was born?  If they didn't know, how could they call?  If they did know, how did they know?  Did your DH call them?  Maybe they thought THAT was the call.  Maybe you can cut them some slack for not doing the exact thing that you had in mind for them to do.  They might still be glad.  And, I'm sorry that they made it he!! for you when your first child was born.  I almost broke out into a sweat in sympathy for you when I read that!

RESPONSE:  Thankful That We Moved
No one can bombard you these days in the delivery room without the doctors and nurses asking you if it's OK  Do you mean to tell me that they all came in right before you gave birth, didn't ask you if it was OK, and then you proceeded to keep your mouth shut?  All you have to do ahead of time is to tell the nurses to keep people out, even after you have the baby.  Nurses are used to families doing this, and all they have to say is that no one is allowed in - doctor's orders.  Why didn't your husband step in and kindly tell them to leave?  He should have stepped up to bat for his wife, who was in labor.

I have posted here before, and I don't know what I would do if this site wasn't here!  I would love to write a letter to my MIL, but I know what sort of trouble that would start.  So, instead I will write to you all.  My DH went to visit his parents in America (we live in Australia) last month on their invitation.  The invitation was to him only, not to me.  This would not be so insulting, if they hadn't already told me that I was to invite both of them or else neither would be coming over (I had never suggested that I wouldn't invite both MIL and FIL).  Anyway, DH went to America for a very short time and saw them.  While he was there, he had a big talk with them about all the cr@p that has been going on for the last 3 years.  It was not pleasant, but he got them to admit some stuff, and also told them that he was sick of it, and he wasn't in the middle anymore.  He was on my side.  Hurrah for me, finally!!!  So, when my DH returned home, he mentioned that my MIL and FIL would like to discuss the issues with me to resolve them.  It never occurred to them to discuss them with me when I rang them and tried to talk to them, but, oh well.  So, I rang them and told them that I was sick of it all, and that I would rather not have a relationship with them at all.  However, that did not mean that they couldn't have a relationship with their son or my DD.  But, I would not be taking my DD to visit them in America.  And, as I don't trust them, and have good reason not to, I would not allow certain things to be a part of their relationship with my DD (such as EVER being alone with her).  Of course, they have interpreted this to mean that I am a complete b!tch who is standing in the way of them having a perfect life with their son.  My MIL has sent inappropriate letters to my husband.  Not even I would say some of the things that she has said in those letters.  For Easter, she sent my DH a box of chocolates.  Fine, but she has never done that before.  Still, I don't really care.  She also sent my DH a card.  That's fine too, because she has done that before, except this time my name was removed.  That's also fine, because I was the one who didn't want to have anything to do with them.  But, in the envelope was another card for my DD which had my DH's name in it.  It contained a little story for him about dead chickens, and was then signed by "Grandma and Granddad".  This is a new one, because last year, and the year before, they sent my DD a card that was addressed to her.  It was separate from the card addressed to DH and me.  Now, I never said that these people could never see my DD, but, after all they have said and done to me, I don't consider them to be trustworthy enough to have a relationship with my DD without my supervision.  And, my DH, after finally witnessing the manner in which they treat me, totally agrees with me.  I made a point to them that they could see my DD and DH whenever they wanted to, and if my DH wanted to invite them over, I wouldn't stop him, and I would be fine with them coming to visit.  I have always tried to be polite to them, and the reason that I decided to stop any contact with them is because every time I talked to them, they would just deny everything, or twist it all around, and I couldn't take it anymore.  It was better for everyone for me to just stop talking to them.  But, it seems to me that they are now making a point of how they only have a relationship with my DH, and that they have to hide cards to my DD from me.  I am not mad, but it does seem to bother me a little.  Who knows what they are up to now?

        Signed - Who Knows What They Are Up To Now?

RESPONSE:  Who Knows What They Are Up To Now?
"I would love to write a letter to my MIL, but I know what sort of trouble that would start."  What's stopping you?  Write a letter that includes EVERYTHING, and post it on the "Open Letter" section of this site.

RESPONSE:  Who Knows What They Are Up To Now?
It would be nice if your DH was a REAL MAN, and reduced all contact with his terrible parents in support of YOU!!!  It was stupid of him to go to visit them without you.  That gives them tacit approval of their atrocious behavior.  Tell your DH to grow up!!

RESPONSE:  Who Knows What They Are Up To Now?
You set the rules for their relationship with your DD.  DH agrees with you.  The next move is clearly theirs.  From the way that they are acting, it may be that they enjoy being petty.  Don't change anything in order to please them.  You aren't likely to please them anyway.

RESPONSE:  Who Knows What They Are Up To Now?
I feel for you.  I am in a somewhat similar situation where my MIL denies and twists everything to try and make me the "bad guy".  I can tell you that she has caused more problems in my marriage than I can say!  Unfortunately, when it comes to my in-laws, DH acts as if he were a puppet on a string.  This will probably end in divorce.  You are fortunate if you have a husband who stands up for you, but it does seem that he might need to be more firm.  The way you are treated is completely unacceptable.

RESPONSE:  Who Knows What They Are Up To Now?
Sympathy about not getting along with your in-laws, but is there a chance that you're obsessing and nitpicking about things?  The behaviors you described (their mail to DH and DD) didn't sound so weird to me.  What would you have expected them to do instead?  It seems like they are abiding by your conditions - that they can be in touch with DH and DD.  I know it's uncomfortable, regardless, but would you want to be extra unhappy because you're nitpicking and obsessing about every little gesture.  Maybe I'm missing something.  And, I do think their previous behavior was difficult, so maybe you're just extra sensitive to their behavior, whatever it is.


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