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frequent fry her - bhnjn, 1 of 4 needed
Frequent Fry Her TM - bhnjn, 1 of 4 needed/Posted: 23-JUL-03
When DH and I were engaged, MIL asked to take the ring to her jeweler so that she could have it appraised and find out how much money DH spent on it.

        Signed - Sick Of It

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frequent fry her - bhnjn, 2 of 4 needed Frequent Fry Her TM - bhnjn, 2 of 4 needed/Posted: 23-JUL-03
When my MIL found out that I was pregnant, after 9 years of marriage, she decided to buy me a fabulous birthday gift - MATERNITY CLOTHES!  She forgot my birthday for eight years.  And, when she finally remembered, she was so kind as to buy me FAT clothes when I was only TWO MONTHS pregnant.  Not just that, but they were not returnable.  I thought about buying her a copy of Emily Post, but I figured that she probably wouldn't understand the logic anyway.

        Signed - Sick of the Nasty Redheaded Beast After 16 Years

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For two months my SIL told everyone who would listen about the boots that she wanted.  They were just like my favorite pair that I wore all winter (I was flattered).  I told my MIL that I would buy some for her and she said, "Oh, no, I'm getting the boots for SIL."  So, I found a different gift for SIL.  On Christmas morning we sat around, and as each of us opened our presents in turn, my SIL got a bracelet and I got a pair of boots exactly like the ones on my feet!  My MIL told my SIL, "Well, I just didn't think that they would look good on you, they're very trashy."  My SIL and I have bonded from that moment on (and traded gifts when MIL left the room).

        Signed - At Least I Like My SIL

I, the MIL, have loved/adored my DIL since the day my son brought her home.  Now they're expecting their first child, and I have been very excited since day one.  I haven't bought one baby gift yet, only because I am waiting until she hits her 3rd month.  I would love to spoil this baby big time.  Now, it is important to know that our family has always been very close (when my boys were growing up).  So, I shared a clipping that I found in Woman's Housekeeping magazine of a grandmother's nursery, with animal paintings on the wall, with them.  I wanted to have one in my house for my own grandchildren.  Well, most recently, my son called to say that he was uncomfortable about something.  He said that he thought it was kind of FREAKY for his parents to have a nursery, and didn't want us to have one.  Then, he stated that the baby wasn't going to be over that much anyway.  So, as hard as it was for me, we talked things out for a while.  I'm not going to have a baby room for his children, even though I explained that it was for their convenience and fun.  I even tried to explain that his grandparents had stuff for them (i.e., cribs, high chairs, etc.).  Somewhere in our conversations he stated that the baby would never spend the night.  This whole thing really hurt me.  I'm going to respect their wishes.  But, this whole experience took the excitement out of my heart on the whole new grandma thing.  I feel that my DIL thinks that I'm a freak - just great.  So, now, I wonder, do I just totally back way, way off?  Do I buy any baby stuff, ask questions about doctor visits, or call to see how she is doing?  Should I be a MIA grandma?  Last thing:  I want my son and his darling wife to enjoy our company and have good memories and good times together.

        Signed - MIA Grandma

RESPONSE:  MIA Grandma
I wouldn't take it personally that your son said the baby wouldn't spend the night.  Many parents are not comfortable with the idea of babies overnighting elsewhere; it's nothing against you.  Be involved, be pleasant, offer to help, and be there for your son and DIL during the stressful time of being new parents.

RESPONSE:  MIA Grandma
You sound like you will be a wonderful grandmother.  Back off a little.  Give your DIL a little time.  First pregnancies take a little adjusting.

RESPONSE:  MIA Grandma
It sounds like you are really trying to be a good granny, and that is commendable.  But, if this is your son and DIL's first baby, they may feel really uncomfortable with you having a nursery.  My MIL (a totally different story) set up a nursery when I was 2 months pregnant with my oldest DS.  It really upset us, because it made us think that MIL thought that she was going to have DS all the time.  It is freaky for a GM to have a nursery, unless you guys have a baby-sitting arrangement and need the furniture.  As for keeping your GC over night, don't ask your children for overnights.  Wait until they ask you.  Some parents are pretty particular about letting their children stay anywhere overnight without them.  My mom (and we love my mom to death, and would trust our kids to her always) never kept my oldest DS until I was in the hospital giving birth to my twins.  Good luck.

RESPONSE:  MIA Grandma
Congrats on the grandbaby!  I don't know the entire situation, but I doubt that your son and DIL think that you're an incompetent caregiver.  Most parents are uncomfortable with the idea of letting their baby spend the night away from them.  The idea of you setting up your own nursery, no matter how innocent, probably scared them.  It's obvious that you're excited about your grandchild, and you should be able to celebrate it.  I would sit down with your son and DIL (maybe have them over for dinner) and apologize for scaring them with the nursery thing.  Reiterate how excited you are for them, and ask what you could do to help them prepare for the baby.  Then, take their suggestions.  They may not be ready to prepare anything just yet.  At any rate, my suggestion would be to buy a portable crib to keep at your house.  So if they decide that they want you to watch the baby (or he/she needs a place to nap when they visit), you have a place for him/her to sleep.

RESPONSE:  MIA Grandma
Your DIL probably felt that when you wanted to have a nursery in your home, you were presuming that the baby would be spending all kinds of time at your house.  Who knows?  I don't have much advice to give you, except to just continue to express your excitement at the new arrival.  And, yes, do call every now and again and ask how your DIL is doing.  Tell her how delighted you are about the baby, and how you know she'll make a wonderful mother.  When the baby is born, resist the temptation to offer advice, as it can be construed as criticism.  Good luck!

RESPONSE:  MIA Grandma
My mother has a highchair, playpen, and an entire room filled with toys and supplies when they are at her house.  Your son and DIL may not understand now just how convenient a grandmother can be, but give them time.  After lugging around a booster seat, diaper bag, toys, etc., to your house a couple of times, then they will appreciate the kind gesture!  As far as your son saying that the baby will never spend the night at your house, give them a few months of a crying baby through the night, not being able to drop what you are doing to go out to dinner or a movie or to just run to the store, and they will need an evening to themselves!  Good luck!

RESPONSE:  MIA Grandma
I think that maybe your son and his wife are nervous, first time parents to be.  Maybe after a little bit of time goes by, they will realize that having a loving grandmother who is willing to baby-sit is a very good thing.  I'm sure that right now they just can't imagine ever spending the night away from their child.  I'm just as sure that they will change their minds.  Maybe not when your grandchild is an infant, but maybe by the time he is a toddler.  Having a bed or at least a playpen around is not a bad idea - that way they could lay the baby down for a nap when they are visiting.  Just keep your questions general.  Don't get too personal about the doctors visits, but let both of them know that you are looking forward to this event and that you support their decisions.  Good luck.  I hope everything goes well.

RESPONSE:  MIA Grandma
Sometimes parents do things that they see as "helpful", and to the couple, it's really intrusive.  You may want to ask your son (not his wife) about these things.  If they have concerns about something, he can tell you.  I've told my mother that our future children will not be allowed in a smoking house, and if she is still smoking when they come around, she'll have to come see them at our house.  Also, MIL (she does not know this) will not be spending much time with them.  Certainly not alone.  She is obese, and I don't even think that she would be able to hold a baby in her condition, it's that bad.  Her house is a pigsty (children put things in their mouths and get ill easily).  And, if anything ever happened, she would not be able to move fast enough to do anything (kids choking and such).  Those are just a few of my reasons.  But, another thing to think about is that maybe her family isn't as close knit.  Try to understand that maybe his wife is a more private person.  This is the case with us.  DH and their family are (overly) involved with each other.  I will not be part of all of it.  Talk with your son and try to understand.  Good luck.

RESPONSE:  MIA Grandma
Difficult one!  If you don't ask questions, they'll say you're not interested.  If you ask too many, they'll say you're nosy.  It seems that they're stating to you that "they are the parents now".  However, I can imagine that a few months or a few years down the line, they'll only be too happy to hand the baby/child to you for a bit of "me time".  You can explain again that you would like contact with your grandchild, and, to start with, agree on the terms.  Compromise if you have to.  See the child for fifteen minutes or an hour every week.  Have an afternoon in the park every month.  Prove to them that you are trustworthy (after all, you've done this before and brought up your own children).  Don't go overboard with the nursery, but have a room at home which is welcoming and can be used safely by children (a baby won't mind that much as long as the room is warm).  Some people do not like receiving baby gifts before the baby's born, so wait and ask them what they would like to receive, rather than buying things that you would like to give.  Don't give up.  Keep the communication channels open.  Start a family book with pictures and stories for the child so that he or she gets to know your side of the family.  Give it to the parents.  I suspect this is all due to the mother-to-be's insecurity.  At the moment, she thinks that she knows best, and is probably in awe of your experience.  Don't forget that it's likely that she will rely on her own mother more than on you once she's had the baby.  But, don't worry about it.  Enjoy the experience!  A step-grandmother.

RESPONSE:  MIA Grandma
It is possible that you may have said something to upset your DIL.  I think that it is good for grandparents to spend time with their grandchildren.  However, there are some catches.  The child needs to bond with the parents first and foremost.  Maybe your DIL and son just want to make sure that their child feels closest to them.  Perhaps you have also done something to make them not want to leave the baby with you, like you smoke, or drink too much alcohol, etc.  Child psychologists say that if a baby is "too" close to his grandparent, it can cause all kinds of psychological damage.  The child needs to understand who is mommy and who is grandma, and that there is a distinct difference between the two.  I have no problem with my MIL or my mother spending time with my future children, but the visits will be limited.  Until the child is maybe 7 or older, I don't think that overnight visits are appropriate.  I don't want anyone but DH and me holding our baby for the first two months after its birth because babies cannot see well, therefore I want them to recognize my touch, and not get used to only the way that grandma holds her.  Have you ever said something about how you will spend time with your grandchild that might contradict with the way they want to raise their baby - such as religious views, what you feed the baby, etc.?  This may have upset them and made them lose their trust in you to follow their wishes about how the baby is raised.  I suggest that you just let them know that you will be willing to spend time with your grandchild and that you will respect any wishes that they may have about their child.  Try sending a gift basket full of all kinds of things for the mother of the child, like lotions, spa certificates, gift certificates for maternity clothes, and maybe some of her favorite foods.  This will show her that you care not just about the baby that she is about to have, but that you care about her, too.  I think that all of these things will definitely help your situation.


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