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I want to vent about FIL, somewhat different than most problems.  He wants to hug me all the time, and he wants to hug every woman whom he comes in contact with.  He does not give me polite, nice, FIL type hugs.  Instead, he pulls me up tight against him, and I get the feeling that I have been groped!  He touches me at every chance he gets.  He even hit me on the behind once.  I finally told DH.  He talked to him, and he does behave better now.  But, he still finds ways to come up behind and touch me, and I just want to scream!

        Signed - Hugged To Death

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Worst gift:  My GMIL gave presents to all the family (small family).  Everyone received a nice gift from her, except me.  I got one pair of pantyhose in a package that said three for a dollar.  The package was already opened, and there was only one pair inside.  I had always been nice to this woman, and had bought a robe and house shoes for her for Christmas.  I was new to the family, and she just did not care about me.  This was years ago, and this woman and her daughter, my MIL, treated me so badly.  I finally divorced DH and got away from the entire selfish family.

        Signed - Glad To Be Away From 'em

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Where to begin?  I thought that I'd married into a "normal" family.  DH and I moved from the west to east coast when we found out that we were pregnant.  When we told my SIL, she screamed for hours that we were pregnant, and she wasn't.  There has been a huge sibling rivalry that she has not stopped.  She ended up pregnant three months later.  My mom wanted to have a baby shower for me, but since we were in a different state, she left it up to my MIL.  The only thing that she asked is that it not be on Thanksgiving weekend.  She planned it for Thanksgiving weekend.  My mom could not go, and neither could my friends.  It was a surprise party, so I did not know until afterwards that only 3 people were there from DH's family.  When we moved to the same city as the ILs, we had to live with my MIL and GMIL for 6 months, while I was pregnant.  Needless to say, this was an extremely difficult time already, but the interference in our marriage took a toll.  MIL was upset that we did not spend every free moment with her.  She said that she was "jealous" of my relationship with her son, and that I was going to "leave him, take the baby, and move back to the west coast".  I needed a break living there, so I went to a hotel for a few nights, and she freaked out to my husband.  It consisted mostly of manipulations and guilt laying to make him feel bad for her, which usually works.  We finally found a place, and moved out.  After the baby, she showed up unannounced, and I told her that we were not expecting guests.  She ran away crying, and said to family that she, "hoped she died in an accident on the way home so that we would feel guilty forever".  She said that she only wanted to see her grandson, not us, and that she hated us.  I tried to discuss it with her, and I apologized for the miscommunication, but it is extremely hard to keep her on topic.  She is NEVER direct, and very flighty when she talks.  DH compares talking to her with riding a bucking bronco.  So, now my SIL has a baby girl, and the race is on.  My MIL compares the two all the time ("She sleeps through the night," and, "She is more social."), and now I feel like I will explode.  They are babies!!!  I refuse to let my son cry it out, and now I am a bad mother?!  There is so much anxiety when we have to see them.  My FIL calls my son by the wrong name.  I feel like his family is from outer space, and they lack the communication skills to tackle issues.  Their tactic is to run and hide, or gossip.  In order to survive, we are moving back to the west coast next year, which I am sure will spark the guilt laying on my husband.  She also wants to see our son every weekend, and if she does not, she will say stuff like, "I just want to see him before I die."  Please help.  I have tried talking to them, but it gets me nowhere.  DH tries the best he can, but I also feel that he is not as direct as he should be.

        Signed - Am I Crazy, Or Are They?

RESPONSE:  Am I Crazy, Or Are They?
Your story made me anxious just reading it.  The only thing that I can tell you is "hang on until you move, and then cut ties with the freaks"!

RESPONSE:  Am I Crazy, Or Are They?
Those people sound insane!  Get your family away from them immediately!

RESPONSE:  Am I Crazy, Or Are They?
No wonder.  Where do you think that DH learned his communication skills?

RESPONSE:  Am I Crazy, Or Are They?
Omigosh.  As long as you two give her the power, she will be able to inflict guilt upon you.  It seems like you have it more together than your DH.  Hopefully, soon both of you will be strong enough to not even care about their stupidity.  Believe - it can happen.

RESPONSE:  Am I Crazy, Or Are They?
DH is NOT doing the best that he can.  Tell MIL that the suicidal and dying comments smack of a mentally ill person.  Tell her to either shape up and quit comparing the babies, or she will NOT be seeing DS.  You are the mother, and you have control.

RESPONSE:  Am I Crazy, Or Are They?
My thought is NEVER argue with crazy people!  What is it that you want your DH to do, exactly?  How can you be more forceful and direct with gelatin?  Save yourselves and move (and maybe wait until the truck is packed and pulling out of the driveway before you tell them you are leaving).

RESPONSE:  Am I Crazy, Or Are They?
If you are miserable because of MIL's actions then, no, DH is not doing the best that he can.  Stop seeing MIL altogether.  Don't let her have any contact with DS until she stops acting like such a witch, and move far, far away as soon as possible.  MIL's conversation tactics are not "flighty", they are well-designed strategies meant to keep you on the defensive and make it nearly impossible for you to call her on her actions.  Take charge of this situation, and get the he!! away from your ILs.

RESPONSE:  Am I Crazy, Or Are They?
What makes me think that you are crazy is that you moved to an area that you didn't want to go to just so that you could be close to those nut cases.  If life was suitable for you on the west coast, you should have stayed there.  If I found out that I was pregnant at his very moment, he!! would have to freeze over before I uprooted to go live with DH's mother "while pregnant".  I would hate to think that once I became pregnant I would have to go live with DH's needy mother.  And, I would never marry a man who would have thought that it was a swift idea to go live with his mommy, as if we needed her help to manage our lives.  For god's sakes, didn't you have any idea as to what you were doing?  Women don't need to go live with their own mothers, never mind their husband's mothers, to get through a pregnancy.  You are an adult.  You can stay in one place and live where you choose, even if you have a baby.  Everyone seems to run home to some cr@ppy home town (where they never wished to go back to) to live with their ILs, who are overbearing, make their lives miserable, and think they have the right to intrude.  Sorry, I'm breaking with that tradition and staying right where we have chosen to raise our family.

After putting up with 15 years of passive aggressive jabs, outright rudeness, and obnoxious behavior, I finally let my MIL know that I'd had enough.  I realize that she's nuts, but I never could have predicted how she'd react.  DH and I have recently been seeing a family counselor to help us deal with the stress and to plan a way to let her know that things must change.  I now regret that I let her walk all over me for years.  I always kept my mouth shut, because I didn't want to damage her relationship with DH.  She'd usually attack me while DH wasn't in the room, and he was in denial about the severity of the situation.  Well, on her recent visit, she managed to top herself in the mean-spirited department and made quite the public display.  We were both appalled, and we decided that enough is enough; this awful woman is not going to ruin our marriage.  So, I called her, and in accordance with our therapist's advice, my husband was on the phone too, concurring with what I said.  In the most non-threatening way possible, I told her that certain things made me uncomfortable in her presence.  These include little things like making ethnic slurs in public, gossiping endlessly about cheating husbands of people I don't even know (she's extremely bitter about her own divorce, which happened 35 years ago), cornering me on visits to commit to spending holidays with her and SIL, and constant negative talk.  She listened, pathetically denied a few things, and then didn't understand when I told her that the guilt trips about not visiting often enough made us feel unappreciated when we do visit.  She and SIL live in another state, a treacherous three hour drive away.  I also explained that it's difficult to spend time with SIL, because she talks incessantly about her numerous health problems, that she hates her job, and has no friends (gee, I wonder why).  This is compounded by the fact that, like my MIL, she has NEVER shown interest in any aspect of my life that doesn't involve my husband.  And, after 15 years, she knows next to nothing about me.  Adding salt to the wound, SIL blew up at me last year, for trying to help her deal with depression, and never apologized.  On the phone, MIL actually then tried to manipulate us into spending Christmas with them.  You can imagine how I felt about that.  I pointed out that the last time we did (years ago), SIL was alternately angry and depressed, taking it out on everyone.  And, as a result, DH and I had a miserable time.  We have no desire to repeat that scenario.  We made it clear to MIL that we were not telling any of this to SIL because she's so emotionally fragile.  She indicated that she would tell SIL that we wouldn't be visiting until after the holidays.  So, what did she do?  She apparently relayed EVERY WORD that we said to SIL.  This is a woman whom MIL knows is taking the highest legal dosage of antidepressants, and falls to pieces over every little thing.  On our answering machine, the next day, was SIL, in a meek, slightly slurred voice (due to tranquilizers, I'm sure) saying, "DH, I'm sorry I have too many problems.  I'm sorry I ruined the last Christmas you spent here.  I'm sorry I'm an embarrassment," yada, yada.  She ended with, "I hope you and DW have a good life together.  I love you, good-bye."  I was livid, both with MIL for taking out her anger with us at her unstable daughter's expense, AND at SIL for playing the victim.  No one in that family takes responsibility for their actions.  To top it off, when DH tried to call his mother, to talk to her about why on earth she did this, he learned that SHE'D HAD HER PHONE DISCONNECTED.  I've given her way too much credit.  I had no idea that she was this immature and vindictive.  I thought that she was capable of being discreet, especially when her daughter's health is at stake.  I also thought that she cared about her relationship with her son, but it's clear that she doesn't.  I'm worried about SIL, who won't talk to us.  But, right now I'm just hoping that I never have to see that horrible b!tch MIL ever again.  Any advice?

        Signed - OUTRAGED

RESPONSE:  OUTRAGED
Someone needed to tell SIL that how she acts is deplorable.  I wouldn't worry about it ever again.

RESPONSE:  OUTRAGED
Never see the horrible b!tch again.  MIL and SIL will never change, no matter what you or DH do/say to them.  The sooner you accept this fact, the better off you will be.  You can't change them.  You can only change how you and DH react to them.

RESPONSE:  OUTRAGED
Stay away from her.  Obviously, she is so self-centered that she puts her anger before her children's health and happiness.  What a sorry excuse for a mother.

RESPONSE:  OUTRAGED
Yeah, cut them out already.  Why be with people who are mean?  Life is too short to be miserable.  If you can't cut them out, then you and DH are going to have to learn to NOT CARE.  Then, you'll feel free - you won't care about their tantrums.  You just won't care.  It's more important to focus on the most important things in life - your little family.

RESPONSE:  OUTRAGED
If there's one pattern in this whole web site, it's MILs who act their worst behind their son's back, when just their DIL is there.  Mine has saved up things to tell me when DH isn't there.  I just avoid being alone with her now.  Your situation sounds like a headache.  I'm sorry that you have to deal with it.  I almost needed a drink after reading it!

RESPONSE:  OUTRAGED
Kick her out of your life for good.  Place a restraining order on her.  She'll then reconnect that phone, and when she calls you, curse her out and tell her to have a nice life w/o you or DH!  I've been through it!  You know that you are not alone!  My IL's thought that they were going to TAKE our first child!  We don't call or visit them anymore!  It has been 4 months!  Ha!


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