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My MIL is directly from he!!.  Manipulative is so not even close for her.  I often beg my DH to just close the door of our life together and keep all the negative out.  In just the past month she has constantly reminded me that daycare is not needed, since she can watch my son (3 years old), but yet she complains of her constant ailments and continues to smoke heavily in her home.  Not a big deal, it's her home.  But, my son is asthmatic (and we're not smokers).  She calls me to tell me how to dress him when coming to her house, acting like she lives in Alaska (she's in the town north of us, a 15 minute drive).  When he sleeps over, I pack a variety of clothing.  She make her own outfits, dressing him all goofy, and telling people that this is what I packed for him (like red knit shorts and an orange and navy plaid button down shirt).  Then, she talks cr@p to everyone in the family, including my 17 year old daughter.  She told her that I ran away at 16 and got pregnant.  She said that, since the man I was with beat me, my parents had to come get me, since I was out of state (which is so not even close).  No wonder my DD wanted to run away with her boyfriend!!  She calls me and complains about her two daughters and their families.  Then, she calls her daughter and complains about me and the other daughter, and so on.  All three siblings don't get along because of this.  I've been with DH for 15 years!!  She is VERY and EXTREMELY ungrateful!!!  Her car died, and she has no money.  I offered to GIVE HER my car (a decent car).  It wasn't the new model that she wanted, so she told me no.  I told her take it and sell it or trade it in for the car that she wanted.  Nope.  Whatever.  She needs bedroom furniture.  I offered her ours, since I was redoing our bedroom - no.  Her brother offered her some - no.  Then, she started a refrigerator kick.  If she thinks that I'm buying one, she's CRAZY!!  Start to be responsible for yourself, lady!!  Shall I keep going???

        Signed - Sick To My Stomach

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We just spent six days visiting my MIL and her DH.  It's been many years since we flew in to visit them, and the trip went uncharacteristically smoothly.  Nonetheless, my DH has been mulling over some of the events that we "let slide".  For example, there is one bathroom in the house, and even when DH announced that he was going in for a shower, MIL gave one little knock on the door and just barged in without waiting for a response.  She also pranced around naked from the waist up, with only a skimpy towel covering the fronts of her breasts, barely.  Of course, there is the fact that she lives a separate reality, and that those around her are merely characters in a play that she writes and rewrites at will, in her head .  She can get along with people to the extent that they are willing to more or less stay consistent with the character that she has attributed to them without challenging her with their own will!  She is astounding.  I believe that my DH is right; that she is mentally ill.  My guess is that she has some form of personality disorder that has not yet been defined.  Can you believe that these are the observations are from a GOOD visit with MIL???

        Signed - Merely A Character in MIL's Play

RESPONSE:  Merely A Character in MIL's Play
Do some research on "narcissistic personality disorder".  It may be an eye opener for you and DH.

RESPONSE:  Merely A Character in MIL's Play
Well, why did you stay at her home then?  It seems to me that you're both blowing two extremely minor incidents waaaaay out of proportion.  If you're that distressed by her, then stay at a hotel next time!

My BF and I have been together for 2 1/2 years; both of us are 27.  For the past year, our relationship has been long distance, because, after graduating, he took a job in his hometown, and I went to graduate school.  His entire family lives in his hometown, and he is the oldest of four.  I have met his family, and they are all lovely.  Recently, his mother asked him what our plans were for being together after I graduate.  She does not want him to leave town.  She pressured him to buy, rather than rent, an apartment, and then kept involving herself in it, buying furniture, decorating his place, and even coming by to clean while he was at work.  Wisely, he took her key away after that.  When my BF told her that it was uncertain whether I would move to his hometown right away, she offered up a few choice criticisms, asking whether I was manic, or obsessive-compulsive, because I work very hard in school.  She then suggested that he give me an ultimatum:  Either I move to his hometown, or we're done.  He was very angry with her and told her, "Enough, end of conversation."  I am relieved at his response, but one reason why I am reluctant to move to his hometown is that I feel, and have felt for a long time, that he is a bit too attached to his mother, and she is a bit too anxious to keep him (and her other 3 children) close to home.  BF went to college in his hometown because she wanted him to stay home.  Even though he insists that the reason he took a job in his hometown after finishing his doctorate is because he could find no good jobs elsewhere (like, in the city where I am completing a 1-year master's program), and I know it to be true, partly, my instincts tell me that he also went home because he feels very comfortable there, and has yet to assert himself as an independent adult.  For the record, though I am pretty intense, and have worked super-hard this year, I am perfectly healthy mentally, certainly not manic or obsessive-compulsive.  I feel that there is a lot of anxiety and hostility behind her comment, and it makes me nervous about the future with my BF.  The fact that she feels within her rights to make such comments makes me more convinced that my BF never has stood up to her.  I don't want to end up in a tug-of-war with his mother over him.  What's terrible is that I feel like issuing an ultimatum to him:  I need to see him be able to live away from home, see his mother accept this, and accept that I am in his life (by all accounts she likes me, and vice versa) and am now his "main woman" before I can commit to a long-term relationship with him.  I am stubborn, too, unfortunately, and I am reluctant to move to his hometown and find myself with a man who lets his mom dictate how he does things.  All I want is for him and me to have an equal, adult, independent relationship that allows us to grow together and make our own decisions, jointly and separately.  And, of course, I want both of us to spend time with our respective families.  I dread, though, any further manifestation of this problem with his mother.  Any advice?

        Signed - Portents of a Big Problem... (?)

RESPONSE:  Portents of a Big Problem... (?)
I agree with the ultimatum that you want to issue to BF;  I would want to definitely know where the relationship would go before committing.

RESPONSE:  Portents of a Big Problem... (?)
My advice?  Run.  Run like a citizen of Tokyo fleeing Godzilla.  If your BF won't move out of his comfort zone, how likely is he really to stand up for you when MIL is mean to you?

RESPONSE:  Portents of a Big Problem... (?)
Listen to your instincts.  If you are having trouble with her now, it will only get worse.  Join the message board and you will learn what life is like with a MIL like the one you just described.  And, as far as BF growing up and standing up for you to his mother, don't count on it.

RESPONSE:  Portents of a Big Problem... (?)
If you haven't mentioned your feelings about his relationship with his mother before, I wouldn't issue an ultimatum.  It seems as if you are making all these decisions about his line of thought without even asking him.  What about talking about these issues and see where he stands?  He might not be as connected to her as you think.

RESPONSE:  Portents of a Big Problem... (?)
Don't do it.  Trust me!  If you move to his hometown, she will be a thorn in your side forever.  If he loves you and wants to spend his life with you, he will leave his mother and start a new life with you.  Men who have mothers like this won't ever survive in a relationship if she lives close by.

RESPONSE:  Portents of a Big Problem... (?)
Go with your instincts.  Your own words are very wise.  Explain your thoughts, and ask him what he wants to do.  Offer a neutral place to live - neither your hometown or his.

RESPONSE:  Portents of a Big Problem... (?)
Don't move to his hometown under any circumstances.  You'll regret it.  Don't even move there saying to yourself that it'll only be for a year or two.  You may have children sooner than you think, and then you'll be stuck and trapped.  I know, it's happened to me.  I hate living in my DH's hometown.  By the way, it looks as though your BF is at least beginning to stand up to his mother a little.

RESPONSE:  Portents of a Big Problem... (?)
I can really sympathize with you.  It's hard making all the decisions relating to a long-term relationship, without other people getting randomly involved.  I think that you should definitely make sure that he is capable of being independent for a bit before you take this to the next level.  The sad reality is that marriages fail all the time, and you don't want to leave anything up in the air.  Good luck!

RESPONSE:  Portents of a Big Problem... (?)
Do not marry BF until and unless this issue is resolved to YOUR satisfaction.  Your instincts are right on the mark!  I would, however, like to take BF's defense on one point:  You say that because mom makes the comments you refer to, it means that he has never stood up to her.  Well, you did say that he took away her key and put an end to a totally inappropriate conversation about you.  Besides, to a person like mom, who has no respect for boundaries, "maybe" means "yes", and "no" means "maybe".  People like her hear exactly what they want to hear.  This is not a reflection on BF.  It is also unfortunate that with this type of person, you cannot be subtle or diplomatic.  The only language that they understand is direct, brutal, and (if push comes to shove) violent.  Please keep this in mind, whatever you decide.

RESPONSE:  Portents of a Big Problem... (?)
RUN.  Sorry, but you really have to find someone with less baggage.  I think that your instincts are RIGHT ON.  If he has not taken DRAMATIC action after his mother made those comments, you are on notice that he is not the type of person that you want to be with.  Yes, 2 years and all that, but really, is this the person whom you want to marry?  Imagine yourself in 5 years, is it happiness you see or a struggle with relationships?  Being married is hard enough.  You really shouldn't go in with 2 strikes.  Yes, there is the possibility that it could work out, but more likely than not:  1.  If you get between them and end their relationship, she AND he will resent you.  2.  If you let it continue, she will dominate your life and you will be miserable.  You will resent him for being weak.  3.  Even attempting to work it out will seem to her as if you're manipulating her son or trying to "take over", and you all will be miserable.  RUN, get out.  You can thank me later.


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