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My maid of honor threw me a surprise bridal shower.  You know the kind, where everyone gets a little tipsy and all of the gifts are a little risqué.  Well, my BIL found out and wanted her to invite my soon to be MIL and SIL.  She tried to explain that this was just for friends, but he threw such a sh**fit that she relented.  Well, here we all are drinking, and I was getting gifts such as crotchless panties and garter belts with fishnet stockings.  Needless to say, my MIL and SIL are a little "uptight" about such things.  They bought me a blanket, which was appropriate since they were a blanket on the party.  Needless to say, we just kept the party going, drinking, and me parading around in some of the outfits.  They left pretty quickly.  We all just laughed and kept partying.  They were treated liked outsiders, and they were.  Maybe they'll keep their mouths shut the next time there's a party, cause there's probably a reason why.  My own mother wasn't even invited.  That should have given them a clue.  When my maid of honor told me about my BIL sticking his nose into it, I about came unglued.  I told her that she should have just told him no.  But she said that she did say no and he was insistent.  So she figured that they'd get what they got coming to them for basically "crashing" my party.  The looks on their faces was good enough for me, and a good laugh after they huffily left.
11/18
                signed - signed, slut in a teddy

My "mother in-law" story may be unconventional -- but it is similar in feelings of frustration to everything else I am reading on this great page.  I feel so upset, and inconsolable today - I went to Yahoo and typed in mother-in-law to see if I could find any support and I am relieved to say that I have related to many!  My girlfriend and I have been together for over 8 years - and my "MIL" has been an issue in our relationship ever since I met her.  She lives in another state - and since my girlfriend and I bought our house - 7 months ago, and her son and his wife (who live three blocks away from us) had their first baby, she has been down "visiting" staying at our house at least twice a month - sometimes 3 or 4 days at a time.  You see, she feels so much more comfortable at my place - because it is bigger - than her sons.  What is so frustrating about her every-other-weekend visits is that my girlfriend has a job where she works tons of hours - and has to work every-other weekend.  So her mom makes sure she schedules her trips on my girlfriend's weekends off.  I work full time - and my weekends are sacred to me - and so WERE the weekends that my girlfriend had off of work.  My "MIL" is a very controlling, passive aggressive person who practically apologizes for breathing.  The reason for this is so the focus can be on her at all times, and how wonderful and self-sacrificing she is.  She does stuff like come in and "help" me by mopping - even though I have mopped the day before.  But what I hate the most, is that she does my laundry!  Maybe most people would be grateful for that - but I hate it!  It feels so violating and controlling to me.  It is always expected that I stop what I am doing and gather my laundry - while she buzzes around my house - like it is hers - just doing, doing, doing, so she can feel like she is miss wonderful.  My girlfriend and I have been in so many arguments over this - she thinks her mom is being helpful.  I don't feel supported at all when her mom is around.  My girlfriend's dad is a practicing alcoholic, and her mom is very needy emotionally for support - so it is like my girlfriend gets into that roll of being her mother's surrogate spouse.  The problem (as I see it anyways) is that, the more time my girlfriend is around her family, the more she behaves in her dysfunctional family dynamics.  This was not as much of a problem when her mom only came 6 times a year.  So "MIL" will be here tomorrow - and be here for three days.  I am at my wits end with this.  I told my girlfriend that I thought that once a month was a compromise - and she agreed, but hasn't stuck to it - you see her mom will fall apart if she feels rejected.  And, in all honesty - really enjoys being around her mom.  At the same time I know she resents how incapable her mom is of "standing on her own two feet."  But, what is so upsetting to me is that my girlfriend has been taking that frustration out on me - and her frustration at her perception that I don't like her family.  Don't like them - I wish that she could understand that I choose her - not her family!!  I think that, why I am so sad, hurt, and inconsolable - is that if things don't change, it will be the end of what my girlfriend and I have together.  When we were at therapy this week, she told me that I make things worse than they really are - that we are just in that space of not being really close that couples go through - what she doesn't get is that I am at the end of my rope - and I can not take this anymore!!
11/17
                signed - Says I Make Things Worse Than They Really Are

RESPONSE:  this is a response to says I make things worse than they really are.
If your girlfriend's mother is coming to visit her grandchild, then she should stay with them.  I can relate.  My husband works major hours, and there are some months he is gone even on weekends.  We definitely like to spend time together when he has time off, not with his parents - who have a habit of visiting, and then never leaving.  Is it possible that you and your girlfriend could get away for a day or two on her weekends off?  Maybe if it's obvious to her mother that the two of you want to make the most of your time that you have together, and you're not available at the time of her visits, she'll get the point.  The other option is that you and your girlfriend confront her and set some clear boundaries.  If your girlfriend wants to spend her life with you, then she NEEDS TO RESPECT YOUR FEELINGS!  My MIL called the other day, and I unfortunately answered the phone.  The subject came up AGAIN, how she and FIL have time to visit much more frequently.  I again had to stress what my husband has told her before, which was, on his days off he likes to spend time with me and his daughter.  Unfortunately, MIL shows no respect for our wishes, and totally blames me for the strained relationship with her son.  He rarely calls or visits.  So, if you decide to confront her (which feels liberating when you finally do), be prepared for some hostility.
11/18
All of my in-laws are from hell.  I've been married for 10 years now.  The last 2 spent not talking to or seeing my in-laws.  Basically my husband has disowned them.  He only sees them for 2 hours on Thanksgiving and Xmas.  They have done many nasty things to me and my daughter, behind our backs of course.  I really didn't care what they did to me, I can handle it.  But when they started on my daughter, that's when I got mad.  They've spread rumors that my daughter was pregnant, then had an abortion.  They tell everyone that she's a slut.  One night, my FIL's tires got slit, and they immediately blamed it on my daughter.  At Xmas she always got cheap presents, inappropriate for her age.  They're "real" granddaughter's got showered with gifts.  She would always ask me what to do with "these things".  I told her to wait 'til we got home, and put them in the dumpster.  My MIL is very cheap when it comes to us 2.  We draw names and spend $25.  Well, instead of buying something nice for $25, she would buy 4-5 cheap, chintzy items for us.  Once my daughter got her license, and she is a very good driver, a truck pulled right out in front of her.  Well, she does the same things that I do, hit the brakes, hit the horn, and flip them the finger.  Well, she pulled around the truck still fingering them, and it turned out to be my FIL.  She stopped and told all of the girls in the car with her and they all mooned him!  Kids will be kids, right.  Well my FIL came to the house and told my husband and acted like it was a major felony.  My husband just laughed at him (as I did).  He said that my hubby should, "tighten the leash on those 2".  My MIL and SIL are always spreading gossip about me and my daughter.  I finally went to a lawyer, and he wrote them a letter telling them that if it didn't stop I'd press charges for harassment.  I asked my husband first if this was ok, and he said maybe it'll shut 'em up.  Well, the sh** hit the fan on that one. 
11/17
                signed - Daughter Flipped FIL

My MIL can be a real pain in the a$$!  She does things that are supposed to be nice, but somehow always come out mean/controlling.  My H & I had a son this summer who lived only 4 days.  My MIL is constantly finding ways to upset me still!  The latest one is: MIL went on vacation and came back with a baby outfit for my BIL & SIL who are expecting in Feb.  After me telling MIL that I'm having a bad day on the whole baby topic, she showed me the outfit and said, "If things had been different, this would have been for your baby."  Gee, don't I already know that if things would have been different I would have a baby???!!!  Her latest one is she wants to hang an empty Christmas stocking up for our baby, right along side of the 10 fat, full ones that will be there for all of the living grandchildren.  I told my H he had better tell his mother that we don't want to see that, and that if it's hanging up when we celebrate Christmas at her house, I will leave!  My SIL supports me on this one!
11/16
                signed - Empty Stocking an Empty Headed Idea

My H & I have been married for a year & a half, and each of us has 2 daughters from our first marriages.  My MIL has a total of 10 grandchildren, including step-grandkids, but my oldest step-daughter is the DEFINITE favorite.  My MIL is constantly giving her little gifts and clothes that no one else gets, including my younger stepdaughter.  When MIL comes over to see my stepdaughters on the weekends, she won't even bother to talk to the youngest one.  She will even go so far as to take all of the girls shopping for Christmas or Easter outfits, BUT with the stipulation that they have to get whatever my oldest step-daughter decides they should have.  This child is now 12 years old and a spoiled brat!  She expects to be first in everything.  She throws temper tantrums whenever my girls get new school clothes, even though she is only here on the weekends, and already has a dresser and closet practically exploding with clothes from Grandma.  My SIL and I have learned that if we want to get MIL to do something for the grandkids, we use my step-daughter's name as much as possible during the conversation.  This woman falls for it every time.
11/16
                signed - MIL Won't Talk To Youngest One

I am pregnant with my first child.  My other sister in law just gave birth to her first child.  My mother in law just loves her, and she can do no wrong. This is just one of the situations where she has annoyed the heck out of me.  I told her the names my husband and I had picked out.  She said that it sounded weird, but quickly added that it was up to us.  She then added, on a quicker note, that my sister in law had picked a nice classical name.  The next time she asks about the names of her future grandchild, I will tell her that we have changed our minds and will now name a boy Hercules Rockefeller and a girl Chesty Larue. 
11/15
                signed - wants a nice classical name

RESPONSE:  RESPONSE TO: Wants a nice Classical Name
I can empathize with you.  MIL was inquiring as to what names we choose for our first child.  Excited to tell her the names we were thinking of, since this was her 1st grandchild, she rudely responded to the girl's name by stating, "That's a horrible name.  You're not going to name a child that."  If that wasn't bad enough, a few weeks later we went out to dinner with my husband's family, and regrettably the same topic came up.  My husband's whole family made a joke of the name without any thought or care about how we might feel.  Needless to say, we are expecting our 2nd and not disclosing anything!!
11/16
My MIL is obsessed with my husband.  She calls him at least twice at day, either at home or at work.  If she can't reach him by phone, she'll page him.  We feel obligated to visit her & the FIL every weekend, which always begins and ends with a big kiss on the lips for my husband.  (The few times I tried to give her a kiss she turned her head away, so now I just wave goodbye from across the room).  She rubs my husband's shoulders and scratches his back while I'm standing right there.  It's as if she's competing with me for his love and affection.

My MIL is loud, domineering, and pushy.  She doesn't know when to stop talking.  She is an ovarian cancer survivor (going on eight years now), but not a day goes by that we don't talk about it.  I try to have patience because I know that she went through a horrible ordeal, but she uses her medical problems to get attention and manipulate people.  When my daughter was a week old, she told me that I better put my daughter on birth control pills as soon as she becomes a teenager because she could've inherited the cancer gene.  Here I was, trying to adjust to motherhood, and all the anxieties that go along with having a newborn baby, and she felt the need to lay that on me!  How did she think that made me feel, telling me that my child might get cancer?  My daughter is almost two years old now, but I still cannot forgive and forget that insensitive comment.

My FIL is just as bad.  When my daughter was a few weeks old and we were over their house for a visit, she started crying the way all babies do.  He said, "Behave yourself kid, I'm not in the mood.  The last time you were here I was ready to check out the shotgun sale at KMart."  He has jokingly said he would beat her up if she wasn't good, and has pretended to kick her while she was bending over to pick up a toy.  That's just the tip of the iceberg.  My MIL laughs at his antics.

I know my in-laws would never physically harm my daughter, but I cannot tolerate the crude comments anymore.  My husband thinks I'm over-sensitive.  He, of course, wants to maintain his "perfect son" status so he never stands up to them.  I'm always the b*tch who speaks up.  I have had it with these two crazy people.  Any advice would be appreciated.  Thanks for letting me vent!
11/14
                signed - Am I too sensitive? 

RESPONSE:  This is in response to "Am I too sensitive."
No, you are not being too sensitive.  Your in-laws are being very insensitive and ignorant.  If someone had made the remark about the shotgun sale at Kmart to me, I would have responded like this; "I'm sorry your grandchild irritates you by being a normal baby and crying.  Next time we won't come to visit, and you can do me the favor of not visiting my home anymore."  It sounds like your husband needs to get some backbone and stick up for his family.  Good Luck.
11/15
RESPONSE:  Response to "Am I too Sensitive?"
Your IL's and mine must be related somehow.  I have known mine for about 13 years now, (6 of which DH and I have been married).  There are way tooooo many incidents to list here.  But I can relate to your examples, especially when I became a new mom to our DS two years ago.  We had gone out to dinner one night with my IL's, and had to stop by the drug store on the way home to pick up an Rx for my son's blocked tear duct.  I ran in, found out the Rx wasn't ready due to the dr's office not providing some info they needed for a first-time Rx.  I ran back out to tell everyone in the car that it would be about 15 minutes.  FIL says, "God D#&$, what the hell?!"  I ignored the remark and tried to be nice, and suggest DH take them by our house so they could get their car and go on home since it was so late ... then he could come back to pick me up.  No one could make a decision, so my lovely FIL chooses to be a jack*ss and yells at me in the parking lot out in the freezing cold.  He screamed, "WHY DON'T YOU JUST STAND THERE????" in an extremely loud, hostile, and rude tone.  I was so damn mad I could spit fireballs at him.  I yelled back, "No, I'm not going to just STAND here!!!!!!"  My MIL was holding DS (8 weeks old) in the back seat.  I said "GIVE HIM TO ME!  NOW" and I went inside with my baby and waited by myself.  I had to cool off before I knocked the you-know-what out of them.  Of course, DH sits there like he's in la-la land and says nothing.  I was soooo extremely upset.  Being talked to like a dog by my FIL while I'm going through post-partum depression ... it was just so horrible.  MY OWN PARENTS wouldn't have done what he did to me.  Why did I need to put up with crap like this from HIM, if anyone?!  Oh, and all that had happened after FIL told MIL to "SHUT UP!!!!!!" in the middle of a quiet restaurant!  It was so embarrassing!

Eventually, I told MIL she may let him talk to her that way, BUT NOT ME!  My IL's are extremely toxic.  I refuse to let them near me or my son unless absolutely necessary.  Maybe once every 2 months.  That's even too much, in my book!

Sorry to get off on my soapbox ... but I just wanted to give you an example of the insensitivity, stupidity, and ignorance I went through as a new mom.  There are many more stories I could share, but there's not enough time in the day.  Don't you know it is soooo easy for your IL's to shift the blame and say, "she's just too sensitive."  It's the cowardly way out for them to say that about you.  All you want is a little respect.  Your IL's probably won't accept responsibility for their behavior, if they're anything like mine ... which it sounds like they are.  Mine are in constant denial.  They lie, and they never think they do or say anything wrong.  They have told me they won't "change or conform to my standards".  All I want is to be treated like anyone else off the street, and to be respected.  Why is that so much to ask?!  My IL's have told my DH that they just don't know what they can or cannot say around me anymore ... that I'm just too sensitive, so they won't say much anymore.  I was like, "FINE BY ME!  The less I see or hear from them, the BETTER off we are!"  And I told them just that!  I used to be their human doormat, but no more!  I must be so hated by them, but do you see concern on this face? : )

Your IL's definitely sound like they don't think before they speak.  The things they have said to you are soooo out of line and insensitive; I would have to think twice about leaving your daughter alone with them.  Your FIL sounds like he has a screw loose.  If you were to say the comment he made (about the gun) to a stranger on the street, the police could lock you up in jail!  Please don't put up with this crap.  Put your foot down with your DH and say, "NO MORE!!!".  Your IL's sound like destructive people.  I hope you won't let them be the cause of a divorce.  They are not worth losing your marriage.  They sound so crazy to me!  Stupid and crazy.  Don't put up with them and please don't subject your daughter to their toxic ways.  Good luck to you.  I know what you're going through, girlfriend!
11/16
My MIL has held a beautiful Christmas dinner every year for as long as my husband can remember.  Luckily, she has welcomed me into her tradition since I began dating my husband, and more so after we were married 4 years ago.  We now have two beautiful children, and since my father has basically disowned me and my family, I look forward to the holidays at MIL's house, to lift my spirits.

Here's the dilemma.  Since my hubby's sister has met her husband, who's family is EXTREMELY well off, she has (for the last three years, mind you) bitched and moaned about the fact that her dh's family would like to see her on the holidays as well, and she is obligated to see them.  This is not a problem, but SIL continues that she wants to spend the ENTIRE day there, rather than with her own siblings, who "don't have any money anyway."  Granted, I have nowhere else to go, but the other two sisters split the day evenly with their boyfriend's families.

So now, MIL is giving in to this money hungry person, and not having any Christmas dinner.  The excuse MIL gave was that, since we all have small kids, they may want to play with the toys received from "Santa".  We all know the truth.  My husband, therefore, has invited us and one of his sisters to her house for dinner.  I'm sure she'll oblige, but I have also offered to hold the family dinner at our small apartment if she didn't feel like it.  Leave it to "G" to spoil the holidays and her own family tradition!
11/15
                signed - No presents for Christmas

Note:  This story moved here, in its entirety, from the 7/15/00 archives due to recent receipt of a response.

My husband and I started out our married life about 2 years ago.  We did live close to FIL / MIL, but had to move 260 miles away - close to my family (they are NOT intrusive).  My MIL is so jealous of my mom because we live close to her.  This distressed my MIL so very much.  My H used to get very angry at me when I would complain about his mother's neediness / obsessiveness / controlling behavior.  But then, we both decided we needed to seek counseling on how to get on the same page TOGETHER and think of ways to space ourselves from her.  This worked for a while, but now it's starting back up again.  I get the feeling I am the scapegoat in the situation.  FIL / MIL insisted on going to breakfast together to talk about how insecure I and MIL are, and how this is a "woman" thing that FIL and H are tired of!!!  I could not believe my H just sat there!  He absolutely FROZE when we sat down to talk.  Just the night before he told me how he loves me so much, and that we have to be on the same page and just explain how WE feel.  And then, when we got there, I was the only one that got to talk, and, honestly, NOTHING was accomplished except we were lectured on how we need to visit more, call more, reassure MIL more that we love her, etc.  My H and I are professionals that work a lot of long hours to get us ahead and plan for our futures.  It seems they can't leave us alone.  WE are happy, and my H told me he does miss his family, but he is also VERY happy where he is now, and loves our lives together.  I love my H, and we want to start a family in about 4 years, but I'm very scared of what kind of problems bringing children into this mess will create.  Others in the family just say that MIL has always been that way, and just to accept it because she means well, but I'm sick of feeling like my H and I HAVE to call, send letters, send e-mails, and visit on every weekend we have off together.  We had to move away from her so we could build a strong marriage foundation.  I believe all newly married couples need to have private time.

Any suggestions on ways to make her happy, without having to constantly reassure her and give her pep talks about how we love her?  Also, how can I stop being blamed if my H doesn't give her the attention she craves?
7/10
                signed - Stop Blaming Me

RESPONSE:  RE: Stop blaming me
Unfortunately, no one can "make" anyone else happy.  She is choosing to be unhappy, and I really believe that, even if you gave in and saw her 24/7, she would find something else to be unhappy about ("you don't talk to me enough when we see each other, you don't love me, you talk to so-and-so more", etc.).  You also can't stop her from blaming you, if that's what she chooses to do.  Since your husband won't speak up, it's easier for them to see you as the bad guy than to consider that he wants his privacy as much as you do.  My husband is one of the ones that does all the "confronting" when it comes to his family, and they STILL see me as the bad guy, even though I don't say a word!  ("Oh, he's just brainwashed by her, she's the puppeteer pulling the strings, he's changed so much since she came along and made him different" etc.)  I think your husband and you may need more counseling, and need to figure out the best way to react to her.  You may not be able to control how happy she is, both in general and about you, but you definitely have control over your own reactions to it.  And your husband needs to get over his fear of their reactions, so he can speak up and present a united front to them.  Good luck! 
7/11
RESPONSE:  re: stop blaming me
Well, I would suggest you resolve to learn to deal with the situation before you have children, or it will just get worse.  A mil who needs constant attention will be 100 times worse as a grandma who wants to see "the grandbabies".  With me it was just a matter of finding a way of tolerating her, and yet at the same time just barely giving in to her in a way where, she feels like her point got across, but where you really could care less.  And I know it is difficult to do when you loath someone, but after awhile you realize it is better to do this than the constant upset stomach and hate you will have for your mil.  But make no mistake, it must be clear to her that you live your own life.
11/15
My SIL used to work at the community hospital.  All of the surgery, ER, and procedure slips go thru there.  Well, my daughter, who was 14, was having abdominal pain and they wanted to do an ultrasound to see if she had a cyst on her ovary.  Well, you know what an abdominal ultrasound means to laypeople.  You're pregnant.  So my SIL tells my MIL, and soon it's all over town that my daughter is pregnant.  My MIL even went up to my 84 yr old grandmother in church and asked her if my daughter was pregnant.  Of course she wasn't, and that wasn't what they were testing her for.  Well, in a few months it was obvious that she wasn't pregnant, so they started another rumor to say that she had had an abortion.  Evil, evil, evil. 
11/14
                signed - Evil, evil, evil

RESPONSE:  re:"evil, evil, evil"
You should've made a formal complaint with the hospital since, by law, your SIL, as an employee of a medical institution, is required to maintain confidentiality.  She can be held liable as well as the hospital she was working for.
11/15

When we first got married I used to go to their family events.  I did my own thing, tried to get along.  But later, I found out that I had made some major "social faux pas" with them.  I don't eat enough, which insults MIL's cooking.  I weigh 110 and they all weigh over 200, so I'm not going to eat as much as they do.  Also, after dinner I go in with the men and watch football.  I've watched football since I was 10, and my favorite team was on.  Well, I guess that all the "womenfolk" (and that's how they say it) are supposed to sit at the kitchen table and gossip.  My MIL came in and asked if I'd like to join them, and I said no I was fine watching football.  I did all these things and no one said a word, 'til after we left.  Then, I guess the whole family ripped me apart about my actions.  I don't go to their house any more.
11/14
                signed - did my own thing

My husband and I, after 2 years and careful consideration, decided not to have children.  Well, when my MIL and SIL heard about this they about had a cow.  We just said we don't want to have any children.  Of course they couldn't believe that their precious baby boy made this decision.  I was the one at fault.  I'm too paranoid about getting fat.  I'm too selfish.  I just want to get back at them, by not giving them a grandchild (like they'd see it anyhow).  My husband has told them over and over it was his idea.  But I get the rap.  Even my BIL has gotten into it.  I finally yelled out, right in front of his wife, that there was no use in talking about it anymore, because I had secretly gone to the hospital and had my tubes tied.  Of course, this was all my fault too.  But my husband lied to them and said that he had to sign the consent too.  No further comments, but maybe that's because I have refused to see or talk to them in 2 years.  My husband only sees them for 2 hours on Xmas and Thanksgiving.  He has told them that if they talk about me in any way he will get up and leave.
11/14
                signed - not having kids

My in-laws never call or write to wish me well during any of the religious holidays I celebrate (I happen to be from a different religion than what they are); nevertheless, during Christmas, they send me a Christmas card and cookies; they call to ask what gift would I want for Christmas.  They know that I practice my own religion, and it is very important for me.  Please give me some insights about how to handle this.  I was thinking of writing a letter to my mother-in-law and asking her to send me that gift, during my holiday, and not Christmas, since I am ..., and not ...

Thanks for your advice
11/12
                signed - wrong holiday

RESPONSE:  Re: Wrong Holiday
It's sad that your IL's don't understand/respect the importance of your religion to you.  However, it's inappropriate to request that a gift be sent to you at a particular time, because it's impolite to ask that any gift be sent to you.  Gifts are optional, not your entitlement.  However, if your IL's are sending you a gift that arrives on a holiday that you don't celebrate (like Christmas), it seems that your best response would be to thank them for thinking of you, but never to refer to it as a Christmas present.  Something like, "It was so nice to receive x from you - I really appreciate the thought."  This allows you to fulfill your role in the gift process - being thankful that you were thought of - without seeming to acknowledge the IL's prioritizing their holiday over yours.  It's not the ideal situation, but you really can't teach people respect or manners - you can only show your own.
11/13
RESPONSE:  response to holiday plans ...
What are you thinking?  Why are you letting this bag control your holidays?  Do you not deserve a nice holiday?  You better have a long heart to heart with your H and then if he can't talk to you calmly about it, so what, go to your family's house alone or w/kids if you have them, let him see you are not going to follow along like some puppy dog.  Trust me, mommies-boys hate that independent thing when it comes to the wife taking a stand ... he will either go with you or you will know where your marriage stands ... simple as that.  Most men are definitely wimps and just want everything to be so nice and peachy.  Don't create waves ... is their attitude.  BS ... create big waves.  You don't get a chance at another life, you better live this one happily, the way you want to, or you'll wake up 20 years from now miserable with no dignity.
11/14
What about daughters-in-law?  I know I could really tell some stories there.  It is not always the mother that treats others badly.  In fact, I would bet money it is pretty much a tossup.  I think my dil believes that, while my son is now an integral part of HER family, we simply lost our son ... Well, guess what?  Not a chance.  I am going to find a way to bring this family together.  I will not lose my son, and now that she is pregnant, my future grandchild.  I love my son, and am willing to love her if she would just allow it.  She pulls back at every turn.  But, I am patient.  I will find a way to have a daughter instead of a daughter-in-law out of this marriage ...
11/10
                signed - she pulls back at every turn

RESPONSE:  re: she pulls back at every turn
You will not succeed if you ever, ever, ever criticize any decision that your son, DIL, or both ever make.
11/12
RESPONSE:  Re: "She pulls back".
You will lose your daughter-in-law AND son if you continue to push your will on them.  You definitely sound like the problem here, since your "refusal to give up" is really your inability to give them space and freedom.  Your assertion that daughter-in-laws are 50% of the problem is correct in this way: those daughter-in-laws who refuse to accept submissive posture to dominating, power-tripping mother-in-laws are surely a problem to people such as yourself!  The sooner you use your authority and power as "matriarch" to give love, understanding, compassion and freedom to your daughter-in-law, the sooner your relationship with her will improve.  The only daughter-in-law problems that I've seen is when the mother-in-law abuses the status she has in the family to force her daughter-in-law to jump to attention.  If you want your relationship with her, and your son, to improve, then ask yourself each step of the way, "Is this how I would treat my neighbor?"  If the answer is no, then you know what the solution is.  Accord your family members the respect, freedom, and dignity they deserve, and you will in turn receive it back.
11/13
RESPONSE:  Dear "she pulls back at every turn:"
I understand your frustration, but nine times out of ten, you are only thinking about what YOU want, and not recognizing what your DIL wants as valid.  Your way is not necessarily the RIGHT WAY.  Everybody is different.  Just because you want to have such a close relationship with your DIL doesn't mean that she wants that as well.  And if she doesn't want that, it's okay!  You must respect what your DIL wants, feels, etc.  Maybe she doesn't want to have a SPECIAL relationship with you.  Does that make her a bad person?  Does that mean that you'll lose your son?  NO!  Furthermore, why would you blame your DIL if you DID lose your son.  Isn't he a grown man?  I doubt that she has him hypnotized or under some voodoo spell.  Why are you blaming your DIL for your son's behavior?  If you lose your son, you have only YOUR SON to blame.  Remember, a gift is not a gift if a person doesn't want it.  Back off of your DIL and your son ... they are entitled to have a life:  THEIR LIFE DOES NOT INCLUDE YOU.  You are his mother!  That's it!  You don't have control over his life anymore.  Things are different now because he has HIS OWN FAMILY.  His immediate family doesn't include YOU.  You are EXTENDED family.  Your son and DIL took vows that included: "... forsaking ALL OTHERS," so if your son is standing by his wife, he is doing the right thing and living by the vows that he took.  I'm sure this is hard to deal with, but its true.  The bottom line is:  LEAVE YOUR DIL ALONE!  LET HER BE WHO SHE IS.  RESPECT HER.
11/13
RESPONSE:  re: "she pulls back at every turn"
Do you really think that your son was so spineless that he let a woman turn him away from his own mother?  If you do, then you must remember you're the one who raised him. It's obvious he turned away from you because of your behavior.  The tone of your story submission says it all.  Remember, he has his own family now - you had your own already!  And, by the way, may I remind you that your DIL may be pregnant with your future GRANDCHILD, but that's just it - A GRANDCHILD, NOT YOUR CHILD.  The child is theirs. Don't get all super matriarchal over people who obviously won't stand for any type of controlling behavior.  Whether you are justified or not, you will lose if you choose to try and control people.
11/14
RESPONSE:  This is a response to "She pulls back at every turn".
I don't know you, and for all I know you might be delightful and your DIL might be an absolute witch.  However, two things bother me about your story, so I wanted to reply in case I can be of help.  Firstly, do you know for a fact that it is your DIL and not your son who decides to spend more time with her family than with you?  My husband is a good, loyal son, but he has never been best friends with his mother, and in fact she is often not very nice to him - she thinks she is just teasing, as is her right as his mother, but he feels she is giving him a hard time and he is never good enough for her, even though he is a lot more successful than his brothers, whom she constantly brags about.  On the other hand, my family is lovely to him, have a similar sense of humor to him, and he just prefers their company.  As an example, my family always gives him his favorite foods and adult presents while his mother serves up foods he dislikes (possibly because she served up those foods when he was 5, before he was brave enough to say what he liked) and still gives him cute pajamas and stockings full of chocolate for Christmas.  So now I am in the impossible situation where my husband CHOOSES to spend his birthday and holidays with my family, and I am the one saying, "no, we have to go to your parents for holidays every second year and you have to see your mother on your birthday, even though I also would prefer to be with my family."

Secondly, it bothers me a lot that you say you want her to be "your daughter".  She has her own mother.  All you should hope for is to be her friend.  My MIL has 3 sons and really wants me and my SIL to be her "daughters".  Problem is, not only do we have our own mothers, her idea of a daughter is this skewed image of a 1950s princess to talk girly things to, drink tea with, and complain about her husband to.  Sort of like what she was like at 20 but more so (she has never, ever had a job outside the home).  I do not have this girly girly kind of relationship, not even with my own mother.  And I am a busy professional, so I don't have time for mid-week morning tea!  If I do do something girly like bake for her, she patronizes me about it like I am a 6 year old baking my first cookies (I am nearly 30!).  She wants me to hang out with her women friends with her, but if I do she expects me to call them Mrs. and not ever disagree with them or her.  Like I am a child to be seen and not heard.  I try very hard to get on with MIL, and she is a nice enough lady, but it would be so much easier if she would see that our relationship has to be on a mixture of her terms and mine (not in her fantasy world) and that I am happy to be her friend on adult terms, but I am not a little daughter to replace the one she didn't have.

I really don't want to offend you because you sound nice, but perhaps if you could find out what you can offer her as a friend, instead of what you want from her as a "daughter", the two of you could start again.  Good luck!
11/14
When my brother was born by c-section my grandma was one of the first people to go in to see my mom afterwards.  My dad was somewhere else, and she was alone with grandma.  Grandma asked what she named the baby (even though she knew darn well what his name was).  My mom said she named him John. My grandma snarled, "I can't believe you named him after a toilet."  Needless to say, my mom was really upset.  A little later, one of her good friends (my future-godmother's husband) came in and she told him what my grandma said.  He said she should have replied, "We call them (grandma's name) in our house."  This is better when my mom tells it.
11/13
                signed - A rose by any other name

My mother-in-law was so bent on her son marrying her best friend's daughter that she went so far as to send her friend's daughter some flowers and a card and signed my husband's name.  The girl called me, and my husband fought big time over this episode.  But, I knew what had happened, and my thoughts were confirmed a couple of years later.
11/13
                signed - MIL sent flowers

Not long after my husband and I got married, his side of the family had a family reunion.  She decided to come by and see if HE wanted to go.  I was about 6 months pregnant at the time.  He decided to go, and she said that I wasn't invited because I wasn't considered family.  She put her blind, 70 something year old father in the back of the truck (no camper) so her precious son could sit up front.  Since he rode with her, she refused to come home until late, and wouldn't bring him home.  I had to go and get him an hour away.
11/13
                signed - I had to go get him

This is a good one.  How would you like to live in the same house as your MIL?

I have to pass by her Apartment in order to get to mine, and she always has her door open.  She asks, "Where have you been?"  If I'm leaving, she asks, "Where are you going?"  If she calls our house and we don't answer the phone, she yells out my Husbands name in the hallway for him to go to her.  One night he was out, and I was on the phone with a friend, so when my phone beeped, I refused to answer the other line.  She yelled out for me to pick up the phone, she had to talk to me.  I have begged for him to find another place.  He won't hear of it.  What should I do?  BTW, I could go on for days with stories, but I will get too worked up.
11/13
                signed - begged him to find another place

My mother-in-law is so cross-eyed, that when she cries the tears roll down her back!
11/13
I have read through so many terrible MIL stories!  My story isn't all that different I guess.  My husband and I planned our wedding really fast, and MIL didn't even find out about it until 4 days prior, because she had been out of the country and out of touch for so much longer than we thought she would be.

Well, the night we told MIL about our plans, she drove 2 hours to MY parent's house to try and stop it. She brought props too! Old scrap books and such telling her son about how a wedding should be, and that he MUST wait at least 6 months so SHE could fix this mess and plan HIM a better wedding.  Needless to say, my blood boiled and I told her we didn't need to wait for her to plan our wedding.  She then insulted me AND my parents who had offered her nothing but understanding, since we sprang it on them too.  She let out some nice yelling ... and when I raised my voice back to her she began to insult me more.  My husband sat there.  I got up and left.

I took a walk, and when I got back my husband said he told her we would hold off for 6 months.  Boy, the fight that followed that.  I told him if he couldn't stand up for what he wanted, and if he was ALWAYS going to be a Momma's Boy, I would have no part in it.  After all, when my family opposed we had stood our ground.  We had also spent the money, and other people had changed plans JUST for US!!  Why were we backing down now?

He called her back THAT night and said, "NO Mom" for the first time.  She refused to go to the wedding, and told him he was no longer her son.  Then, while getting ready for my tiny wedding, my mother comes in and tells me MIL showed up, with two other people! UNinvited people at that!!

At a later date, when we told her that we were expecting our first child, she yelled and had a fit again, claiming she will never ever accept the child.

Of course now, now that I have her precious first grandSON, she is just as sweet as can be.  Yet, there are the signs that she still resents me, and the fact that she can no longer control her son.  MILs fridge is covered in pictures of her kids.  Her daughter, her son and DIL and her DIL's daughter that came with the marriage, my husband and a few pictures of our son.  Oh yeah, and her cat.  Can we tell who is missing here?  She also has 2 photo albums of the wedding of her other son.  They are very thick and wonderful.  For months after our wedding, my husband kept asking her where the pictures were that she had taken.  A couple of months later, out pops this tiny little red pocketbook album with about 24 pictures in it.  Geeee, how nice eh?

I know these things seem small, but it is really hard to be shut out of a family like this.  It doesn't even end with MIL either!  Other family members have TOLD my husband that he should NOT be with me.  Family members I had NEVER MET!!  They were just taking what MIL had said about me and deciding who and how I was.  It is enough to drive a woman nuts!!  I am just thankful that DH now says that if they cannot accept me then they are out of his life.  It made me cry the first time he told me that I was his family now, and that was all he really needed.  I do not want him to lose his family, so let's just pray things keep getting better.
11/13
                signed - hard to be shut out of family

My story is different.  I have the sister-in-law from hell.  She has CF (cystic fibrosis) and she uses that to manipulate things to be her way.  My parents are not too kind to her, but you get what you dish out.  Let me give you an example of how she acts.  On Mother's day we drove 6 hrs. so my mom would have both my brother and I with her for her her special day.  We decided to go to a brunch buffet at one of the local resorts, so we ate a whole smorgasbord of food for about three hours.  Her mother is a true and genuine diabetic, and she now has this "I'm diabetic / becoming diabetic" so we decided to drive to a town close by and do some sight seeing because I have never been there.  Mind you, this is a 1hr. drive from where we were.  We get there and park and we begin walking around, and she decides her blood sugar levels are crashing and that she needs to have a snack, 1 hr after we just ate!!!  My grandparents are both diabetic, so we know that she is full of it.  Well, we leave there and stop at a mall on the way back, and we are looking in one of the stores (and we are looking for me, not her) and she starts in again, we are now about four hours into the trip, so it has been about three hours since she last ate (chili on fritos, healthy food huh) so she goes and gets ice-cream.  We head back into their town for dinner, and we decide to stop for dinner.  It's Mother's Day, so you can imagine the lines and wait at any restaurant.  Well, we had to wait 1 hr to be seated, she just at ice cream, but once again she is crashing and needs to eat right now.  So she asks me to go in and get her some crackers.  I told her to get up and go yourself, you can walk.  She starts crying, and tells my brother, "No one in your family likes me."  I want to scream at her, "Why should we like you when you always act like a whiny B---- ?"  I KNOW my brother is unhappy, but he is just too nice to say anything about it to her or to tell her to stop.  She makes every day with her just so miserable, you can't wait to get away!  My family is very close, and we enjoy spending time together.  But when she comes to town we all want to disappear.
11/13
                signed - we all want to disappear

HERE IS MY STORY!  This is one of many to come!  But here is an oldie but a goodie.  My husband and I have been married now for over 5 years.  We were high school sweethearts.  Now we have 2 children and one on the way.  Anyhow, 2 years ago my husband and I were having a lot of problems.  I decided to move out.  My wonderful Mother-In-Law called to tell me this: "Well, I just want you to know we are thinking about you and the kids, I hope you 2 can figure things out ... (in the next breath)  But I thought I would let you know you might as well get divorced.  NO one thought it would last this long anyways!"  So, once again her sweet gesture turned into a stab in the back!  But it was so funny, I still tell that story to everyone!
11/13
                signed - ~Lasted too Long in Iowa~

Does anyone out there have a perfect MIL that gets on your nerves?  In the ten years I have been married to my husband, she always lets it be known how much she does for everyone, including me.  Everyone at church thinks she is wonderful, and I am so lucky to have so much help with my kids.  I have another side she pretends to help.  She will offer to keep my son (he is three) all the time, but never my twin girls (18 mths), and it usually is within ear shot of other people.  If I ask her on the phone, she always has other things to do.  She brags on how much she buys them, and sneaks in so many comments like, "You don't have a hair-bow in?", "You did not have breakfast?"  She gives advice all the time, even on caring for my elderly parents.  She always says her kids never acted bad or fought.  She will tell me my husband never left his clothes laying around when he was at home (he did not have to, she was probably there to grab them the minute they came off).  She appears to be so nice, but there are so many little ways she insults me that my husband does not even notice.  He says that is her way.  She wanted me to have more than one child because it would be awful to have only one, so I did and had twins.  Now she is hardly anywhere to be found.  I need help so bad.  She lives 15 min. away, and doesn't work, and put her father in a nursing home, but for some reason never has time to help.  Help me with my too nice MIL.  This is not even the beginning of it.
11/12
                signed - MIL too nice ... NOT

My MIL has tried to run our lives ever since I married my husband.  When we 1st moved in together she asked me if I made his lunches for him?  He was 22.  I told her, "no way!"  Then, at our wedding, she took over the whole show.  I let her, as I didn't want to create friction.  For our wedding gift, they agreed to buy us a bedroom suite, which I thought was more than generous ... the catch ... they picked out our bedroom suite without asking us of we liked it.  It was horribly ugly.  Then there was the time she made me underwear and lingerie ... I was horrified when I saw the gift.  Why homemade underwear?  My husband got a card and $$$.  She is a nurse, and every time she talks to me she uses her medical terms as if she was better than me ... NOT.  When my daughter was born, she told me one day to go out and have a good time, the baby would be fine with her, if she choked she would perform cpr on her - she was a nurse you know.  As you can imagine, they didn't watch my children very often!  We now live a good distance away from them, and yet they are still trying to control us, and I have decided that enough is enough, and let them know that NO means NO!  I have a million terrible MIL stories, but that in short is just a few of the tasteless encounters with her.  My husband is adopted, and so I am relieved every day that he is not from the same gene pool!!!!!
11/12
                signed - not from same gene pool

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Dear Jealous of Sister In Law - As I read this I am so sad.  I wonder if you are my younger sister in law that has, for the past 5 years, treated me this way.  In the event that you are not, please let me tell you what it does.  I have experienced the treatment that you have described, and it hurts quite bad.  It doesn't make me dislike my mother or father in law less, it just slowly dissipates the relationship that I had hoped to have with my sister in law.  For the first year that I dated my husband, my sister in law was 19.  She seemed like a very sweet person.  My husband is from a European descent, so I thought she was raised to do too much for him, and I would take up for her.  Slowly but surely it seemed like she turned on me.  She has been very disrespectful to my husband and myself on many occasions.  Mostly to me.  So it definitely makes it look to myself and others that she is immature, and has this deep seated need to be in the spotlight.  I am not trying to take attention away from her.  I was only trying to fit into a culture that I wasn't familiar with.  I would only love for she and I to be close.  I had envisioned, in the beginning, her as a younger sister.  Sadly, I don't think that she will ever be able to see that.  Hopefully, one day when we have children of our own, she will put away the need for attention to focus on the true value of family, so my children and hers can be close.  Good luck to your situation.  Please see what this does to people and how horrible it must make you feel to know that you treat your sister in law this way.  Remember, she only wants to be close to you.  Give it a try.  I bet you will become the best of friends.  Believe me ... that is all she wants in the whole world.
11/12
                signed - Jealous SIL response
 


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