My question for Dr.
Apter is:
Dear Dr Apter,
I actually stumbled on your page while searching for resources that
would help in my counseling ministry. I would very much appreciate
advice, material, etc. that you can guide me with. My focus,
like yours, will be mainly on relationships with IN-LAWS Causes and
Cures of Conflict. My environment here in Nigeria (Africa) is
very different from yours culturally, but you can bet MIL problems
are uncannily similar! I'm quite willing to reciprocate by sharing
resources as this program evolves. I thank you and look forward
to hearing from you. Best regards
P.S. I must tell you - I've been married for 15 years and enjoy
an excellent relationship with my wife's parents. On the down
side, my relationship with MY mum isn't that hot. It's my wife
who seems to understand her (not me)!
Dr Apter's Reply:
It was good to hear of your interest in my work on mothers-in-law
and daughters-in-law. It would be very interesting to learn
about the problems you have to address. Much of my work can
actually be viewed on the mother-in-law stories website, but I have
a paper I presented to the British Psychological Society which I could
get ready to email to you if you think that would be helpful.
In the meantime, we could perhaps begin a dialogue by hearing about
the problems you witness. The stories would be interesting to
all visitors of the website. I would also be pleased to give
you my views about how one might begin to manage those problems.
Best wishes.
NOTE: Unfortunately, the e-mail address voluntarily included
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remains interested, please make contact again through this site.
My question for Dr. Apter is: I remarried just over a year ago. At the time, my husband
was living with his mother, along with two children (2 and 8), after
his wife left him a year earlier, after being caught in a lesbian
relationship. His comment to me, while dating, was that he
"had it great" as Grandma helped with the kids (he travels a great
deal and, granted, would have had major problems with the kids and
with his job without help.) The real situation was that Grandma
drained him dry financially, took kids to daycare, and fed them
absolute junk. House was a total wreck at all times.
Shortly after we got serious it "came out" that the youngest child
was not his, and further, that she had reactive attachment disorder,
Fetal Alcohol Effects, and generally was a scary, destructive child
who we were told did not need to be around other kids, as she was
a threat to their physical and emotional well-being. He felt
very guilty, and felt like it was his fault. But, in all our
counseling, he acknowledged that he just didn't have the feelings
for her that a father should have for a daughter. The therapist
pointed out that, with her emotional problems, including a lack
of empathy, conscience, and ability to reciprocate love, along with
the lack of a biological tie, he was not a bad person to feel unable
to continue to try to raise her. His mother, who, during our
entire courtship, was a pro at guilt-tripping my now husband, and
at telling me (behind his back, of course) alternately how he "took
care of her" by giving her his credit cards, grilling steaks for
her, etc., and how helpless and dependent on her he was, took this
and went to town. I can't tell you the hell we went through
after the child, now 4 1/2, began the death threats, wandering the
house at night with knives, tormenting daycare pets, etc., and we
knew she could not be part of our family. Grandma insisted
that she wanted custody, and after a year and nearly $10,000 spent
by us, she has it. Now, she has the ultimate weapon to use
to get attention from my husband.
Dr Apter's reply:
It sounds as though you are walking on a minefield. Your husband
is very dependent on his mother to see how much she costs him, both
emotionally and financially. However, her pursuit of custody
of the 4-year-old child could well be to your advantage. This
child, about whom your husband (very understandably) has divided
feelings, is clearly disturbed and disruptive. If your mother-in-law
looks after him, and has custody of him, will it be easier for you
and your husband to make a family life with his own child?
You may be able to cushion your husband against his mother's guilt
trips by reminding him how much he has done for her, and for both
the children. Clearly you feel very supportive of him - and
that could make him stronger.
My question for Dr. Apter is:
Dear Dr. Apter,
I have never had a good relationship with my younger sister-in-law.
The story would be too long if I went into that part of my problem,
so I'll just fast-forward to present day. I am 8 1/2 months
pregnant. Recently, younger sister-in-law sent a 2 page letter
to my husband. She is a college student, and spent the semester
studying in Finland. In this letter she did not mention my
name once, but said she couldn't wait to see HIM, to see HIS new
house, and to see HIS new baby. Also, that she hoped HE was
making sure her unborn niece was growing nicely. She also
mentioned she was flying into our home town when she returned to
the states. We had no way of contacting sister-in-law to let
her know that the time she planned on arriving was not going to
work for us (about a week after our baby is due). So, my husband
told my mother-in-law that younger sister-in-law wasn't welcome
here at that time. My mother-in-law is the only person who
has contact with younger sister-in-law, so that is why we said something
to her, because we thought it should be said before any plane tickets
were purchased. My husband wasn't too tactful when he mentioned
it to his mom, so I thought I would try and smooth things out a
little, and I wrote my mother-in-law an email asking her to understand
that, because of me and sister-in-law's past problems, it would
be best if she flew in to an airport that was more convenient for
mother-in-law to pick her up at. I never said younger sister-in-law
was banned from our house, just that right after I gave birth wasn't
the best time. Well, apparently my mother-in-law forwarded
this e-mail to my older sister-in-law. Some how, my older
sister-in-law sent a reply to her mom, but it mistakenly got sent
to me (she must have done a reply to all or something?). In
that e-mail she said some horrible things about me. That they
should "let me have it," never speak to me again, tell my husband
what I said (which I found a little strange because I pretty much
restated what he had said).
Dr Apter's reply:
It seems that your sister-in-law was offended by what you said.
She responds by getting angry, and attacking you. But you
have every right to avoid visitors when you are about
to give birth! The fact that your sister-in-law does not see
this is part of her general policy of ignoring you as a person (and
speaking only about your husband and the child). I am glad
that your husband is so supportive. I suspect that your mother-in-law's
"mistake" - sending an email to you that was intended for her daughter
- was in some sense intentional. Try not to let your sister-in-law's
(or mother-in-law's) anger unsettle you.
My question for Dr. Apter is: My MIL always worries that her daughters will be jealous or
unhappy if she is nice to me. My MIL has always been very
protective towards my sister-in-law. They are very jealous
about me over everything, like my home, income, I travel often,
how I dress, and so on. They have been giving me problems
for 10 years, ever since I was a girl friend to their brother.
We've tried talking to them (the siblings), however my parents-in-law
were not happy. I've always been very generous to all the
family members. For every celebrated occasion I bought them
presents, even if I was on a holiday trip. My parents-in-law
are fishmongers. For so many years I have been hurt and disappointed
by Mil and SIL. I've always chosen to forgive them by gods
graces. One of the sis-in-law always feels threatened in my
presence. She likes to control the rest of the siblings.
If anyone of them is close to me she gets very unhappy. She
will cause some misunderstanding, and be glad to see the everyone
end up not being on good terms with me. There are too many
occasion to mention. I have concluded that they are a very
self-centered family. They take everything for granted, and
they've so much pride in themselves that they've become arrogant.
I am very tired of being sandwiched between them. This just
triggered my memory of another bad experience. 8 months ago
we had discussed and agreed to sponsor the Parents on a trip.
All liked the idea and agreed to it. As the day approached
(the birthday) no one mentioned anything about it. Therefore,
my husband and I volunteered to follow up on the arrangements.
As my mil preferred the shorter trip instead, each person's share
of the cost will be lesser. My mil told one of the SIL's (who
is in the States now) a different story - that she prefers cash.
I was confused because she had been so excited. And she was
only worried that the children needed to come up with the money.
My SIL emailed to us that her preference was to give cash rather
than a holiday trip. The way she phrased it was like either
way it was her birthday present. She can chose to go some
other time, or put it in a bank to gain interest.
Dr Apter's reply:
As I understand it, you have been very generous, but your generosity
has been ignored. Your thoughtful ideas for giving your parents-in-law
a holiday have been taken over by your sibling-in-laws, who change
it and take credit for it. As I see it, you have a choice.
You could sit down with your parents-in-law and explain what you
planned for them and what you would like to do. It is possible
that your parents-in-law may then focus on your thoughtfulness and
respond to it appropriately. A second possibility is that
you distance yourself from them, and decide that you have been generous
for long enough. Since they have so often slighted you and
failed to acknowledge your effort and consideration, it may be time
to be simply polite and respectful, but not so generous.
My question for Dr. Apter is:
Three years ago when my father-in-law passed away I whole heartedly
agreed for my in-excellent-health, financially-independent mother-in-law
to move in with me, my husband, and three children upon her request
(at the time we had a good relationship). One year later,
when she retired, she sold her home and moved six hundred miles
north to our home; leaving her parents, three brothers, two sisters
and only other son (no daughters). She moved into our walk-out
basement complete with 2 bedrooms, 1 full bath, full kitchen, dining
area, walk-in pantry, 3 walk-in closets, private drive, private
carport, and her own telephone line. Needless to say, she
is fully independent on us physically --- when she chooses to be.
In the beginning, she was obviously very needy emotionally and physically.
Therefore, in an attempt to make the transition easier, I unpacked
her things and helped put them away, introduced her to people that
she still remains close to, drove her places since she is intimidated
in traffic, took her to places where she could meet people her age,
etc. I did all these things with a happy heart, hoping to
make the transition smooth. She was very appreciative, and
with time has formed close relationships, has traveled all over
the world, and taken up new hobbies. She has, as they say,
"her own life". However, although she has her "own life" independent
from us (which is GREAT), she doesn't seem to want us to have a
life independent from her. Unless she has plans otherwise,
she expects to go with us out to eat, to church, family events,
to ballgames, on vacations, she is at our dinner table every time
we sit down to eat. Don't misunderstand, I wouldn't mind going
some of the time. But her going with us is the rule, not the
exception. I feel it should be the other way around.
When we tell her we want it to just be us, she gets her feelings
hurt and pouts for a day or two, which makes my husband feel bad.
When we leave, she would like for us to tell her where we're going,
or when we come home. When I was resting with my husband,
my mother-in-law was in our family room with my kids (unbeknownst
to me). Her comment to me was, "Yeah, the kids told me that
you both had headaches and went to lie down. I know better.
I know what you've been doing up there." Although the
kids didn't hear this, I was appalled, and felt this was yet another
area in my life that she was intruding.
Understand that this is not an overbearing, controlling woman.
She was married for 33 years to a very dominating, controlling man
who made all the decisions, and took care of everything for her.
She is an easily intimidated, insecure and emotional woman, and
seems to depend on my husband the way she did hers. Now the
kicker:
About one week ago I went downstairs to her apartment to look for
my daughter. On the way down the stairs I heard my mother-in-law
talking, and when I realized she was on the phone I started back
up the stairs. As I turned to go back up the stairs I heard
my name. I stopped to hear her saying terrible things about
me, even questioning why, "My boys married the girls they did,
especially when I think about some of the other girls they dated
and could have married." Needless to say, I felt like
I had been kicked in the stomach! Later that night I confronted
her about her conversation, and she said we need to talk.
I told her I didn't want to talk. When she kept on following
me and insisting that there had been something wrong with our relationship
for a long time, and that we need to talk, I told her that I didn't
want to talk to her, look at her, and if there was a problem she
should have come to me to talk, and not her buddies! I was
so upset I could hardly breathe. After three days of not seeing
her (my husband saw and talked to her briefly) she called my husband
at work and insisted that we talk that night. We talked that
night. Of course, she cried (seemingly trying to make herself
seem like the victim), and apologized to me, but said that if I
had not made her feel shut out and unwanted in our lives, that she
wouldn't have felt the need to "confide" (she was laughing and making
sarcastic comments in her phone conversation) in her friend, and
so it was really my fault that she said these things. I refused
to take responsibility, and told her that she chose to say those
things and that I would not apologize. The next morning, feeling
sorry for her, I went down to her apartment and told her that if
I made her feel left out that I was sorry and I apologized, but
that things would never be the same between us. We haven't
seen or spoken much since. I don't want to see or speak to
her. I know she will always be a part of our lives, and I
respect the fact that she is my husband's mother and my children's
grandmother. But I will never trust her again, and don't even
desire the relationship we once had.
Please advise me-- is there a way for us to live in harmony under
the same roof now that there is so much water under the bridge?
I feel I can live with her in my house as long as she understands
the boundaries and respects my/our privacy. Would it be mentally
and emotionally healthy for me? How do I make her understand
and know that to expect me to even want her around at all is asking
too much? I admit that I may feel differently as time goes
by. I am open to any suggestions, advice, or comments you
have. Thank you
Dr Apter's reply:
Sometimes being generous leads to problems. You gave your
mother-in-law special care to help her make the transition to her
new home. It seems that she thought this was a precedent for
how you would always behave - and she came to expect it and think
that she deserved it. As you prepared to give her more independence,
she (unreasonably) felt that you were letting her down. You
now have to stand up for your wish to have an independent life and
to be treated with respect. I would allow her to sulk for
a while. There is no need to keep apologizing to her - in fact,
I would avoid any further apology. Try to be neutrally cheerful.
Invite her to come out with you, or join you in your home from time
to time, but preserve your independence and privacy. Perhaps
this rift will eventually lead to a better balance in your home.
My question for Dr. Apter is: I hope you can help me. My husband's brother and his wife
are very different than us. They are very much into money
and status. They are extremely snobby and shallow. In
the past, when we've gotten together, there are uncomfortable silences
because no one knows what to say to each other. They want
to talk about wine-tasting, the stock market, money and how to acquire
more of it, their latest possessions, partying, and how certain
people aren't fit to be alive because they don't have money. (They
don't make comments like that about us, to our faces, anyways.)
The funny thing is they're in debt (they don't know we know that),
they just keep spending and spending to impress the neighbors (they
live in an exclusive country club). My husband and I are into
the more meaningful and spiritual things of life (we're both in
the social work profession). I have no way to relate to shallow
people such as this when I've been at work helping battered, homeless
women and children all day. Another problem is with my MIL.
She has this utopian idea that we should all be best friends.
She even cries about it to my husband, because she feels we don't
spend enough time with them. Don't get me wrong, my husband
loves his brother, but more for what his brother used to be (down-to-earth,
"real") rather than who he is, now that he's been with his status-seeking
wife for several years. But even now, occasionally we'll see
the good side of him come out. My husband and I have tried
to think of things we might have in common, but we're at a loss.
One thing we came up with is the fact that they have 2 dogs and
we have one too. But when we tried to bring it up in conversation,
they said what a mutt our dog is, and how they don't understand
how anyone would want a mixed breed when they could have purebreds
(they paid several hundred dollars each for their dogs, I got mine
free at an animal shelter). Plus, these people refuse to do
anything for entertainment that costs less than $100 (such as rent
a movie, make dinner).
Dr Apter's reply:
It sounds as though your in-laws' idea of friendship is to have
an audience to air their own ideas and flaunt their own assets.
Common interests will simply become a focus of
competition, and they will declare themselves superior. Perhaps
your mother-in-law herself is uneasy with her son's character, and
therefore feels threatened by your response (because it confirms
her own inadmissible thoughts). You or your husband could
reassure her that you are pleased to see them occasionally as family,
but that friendship has a magic element that cannot be forced.
Perhaps you could explain that this is no one's fault.
My question for Dr. Apter is:
PLEASE HELP ME!!! My mil is ruining our lives, and I can't
understand why. He (her son) and I have been together for
three years, and have just recently been forced to move in with
his mom. She goes out of her way to make my life a living
hell. She will not let me use certain dishes, will not let
me cook, or watch her television, which is in the living room.
She tells her son that I constantly go through her things and that
I won't leave her stuff alone. I'm not even allowed to get
phone calls here, and I live here and pay half of the bills.
I want to know why you think she is being like this, and why her
son is not sticking up for me??/ PLEASE. I AM SO CLOSE
TO LEAVING HIM, BUT DON'T WANT TO. Please help.
Dr Apter's reply:
This is a difficult situation. Your mother-in-law seems to
be having some trouble sharing her home. I suggest that both
you and your husband tell her how grateful you are for being able
to live with her, and that you understand how difficult it must
be for her. You could go on to say that you very much want
the arrangement to work, and you want her to tell you what she expects
from you. On the other hand, she needs to understand that
as much as you want to respect her wishes, you also need to maintain
your dignity and freedom. So while you are happy not to use
the dishes she cherishes for her own, you need to be able to receive
and make phone calls. Also ask her, if she has any problem
with your behavior, that she states her problem clearly to you,
and that you are given a chance to discuss this.
My question for Dr. Apter is:
My mother-in-law is a problem, because my husband takes up for her
and basically says she is right in EVERYTHING she does, without
taking into consideration that what she is doing is very hurtful
to me. My real issue is how to deal with her and him without
causing an argument between my husband and I. My MIL is absolutely
obnoxious when it comes to our 4 1/2 month old boy. A little
background - my husband is the only (and desperately tried for)
child. My MIL & FIL are my husband's employers.
Major problem. My MIL feels that she has a right to enter
the house WITH HER OWN KEY WITHOUT RINGING THE DOORBELL. Of
course, my husband lived in this house before we were married.
My MIL calls my son too fat ALL THE TIME, even after I addressed
to her that I found it offensive and I didn't like her calling him
fat. She continues saying it with, I think, a delicious sense
of satisfaction that I can't keep her from saying it - and she is
saying it like I am actually hurting our child - in fact, recently
she brought up that his heart could get smothered!!!! My son
was 8 lbs, 7 oz, and 20 inches at birth, and at 18 weeks he is 19
lbs and 28 1/2 inches long. Our baby doctor says he
is perfect, and that has been told to the MIL, but that doesn't
change anything. She continues on with an obnoxious manner,
demanding to know what he has eaten during the day, and snoops about
to see what open baby jars she can find so she can loudly and with
shock say "He ate ALL this!!" I can't take it anymore, and
my husband only takes up for her because she is a big control freak,
and either he fears her, likes the control, doesn't want to make
her mad, or I don't know the reason. I need help dealing with
this problem - the remarks about the child's weight is made EVERY
EVERY EVERY time she comes around - which is very frequent.
My mother is going to watch the baby when I start work (just got
out of college) and my MIL has expressed her great concern about
that, saying it is UNHEALTHY for my mom to watch. I have no
idea why that is.
Dr Apter's reply:
It seems that you should first decide whether you want to try to
enlist your husband's help, or whether you want to tackle the problem
on your own. Since your husband seems very reluctant to see
(or admit to seeing) any fault in his mother, it might be easier
to fight the battle yourself. Explain that this is now your
house, and that you expect her to let you know when she is coming
and to enter the house as a visitor would - unless there is specially
some prior arrangement. Try to choose a time when neither
of you is particularly stressed, and try to speak neutrally, and
keep your neutral tone even when she becomes either hostile or tearful.
Also, explain that you have taken her concerns about your son's
weight very seriously, and have sought medical advice. Your
doctor has looked into the matter and advised you that your son's
weight is perfectly normal. Repeat this as many times as you
have to. When she comments on your son's eating habits, simply
ignore her. As for her comments about your mother: ask
her to state her objections clearly, or else refrain from making
hints about your mother.
My question for Dr. Apter is: Dear Dr. Apter, my MIL suffers from Obsessive Compulsive Personality
Disorder in which she was clinically diagnosed four years ago.
She refuses to go for therapy or take meds, because I believe she
is in denial. I have two children who she constantly wants
to see (these are her only two grandchildren). She is very
good with children. My question is this:
She wants to see them for four nights a week. I feel this
is too much, because my eldest son is involved in some activities
(she tells me to cancel them). How do I tell her without hurting
her feelings? Actually, I wouldn't mind the help like twice
a week to do my errands and other stuff. But four nights I
simply feel is too much.
Dr Apter's reply:
You could begin by telling her how wonderful you think she is with
children. Tell her you would be delighted for her to have
the children two nights a week. When she insists on four nights,
simply say, "Two nights would be wonderful. Four is too much.
But two are wonderful."
My question for Dr. Apter is:
I recently married my boyfriend after a four year courtship.
My relationship with my MIL was great during those years and soon
after. I noticed a change in her behavior towards me five
months after our wedding, when her youngest son eloped and married
a woman he had known for three weeks only!!!! This was his
first marriage, and was a shock to the family. He leads a
party-type lifestyle, and made negative comments about getting married
when we announced our wedding date. The day of our wedding,
he didn't speak very much, and cried throughout the entire ceremony.
We were surprised at his reaction to the ceremony, but never expected
him to want to marry right away. Since then, my MIL treats
his wife as though she's known her for four years. She frequently
compliments my sister-in-law on her appearance, and told her to
call her "Mom". She made it clear to me that she
wants me to address her as MIL, and not "Mom". She
has started making subtle, rude remarks towards me as well.
Also, she took down our wedding picture out of its frame, and replaced
it with a snapshot of her other son with his wife. She gave
our picture back to us. She makes comments about my husband's
brother and his wife as being so in love to have married so quickly
(as opposed to us). My husband and I have a great relationship,
are both college graduates,
and have a great life. The sudden switch in behavior really
has caused some hurt feelings though. Should we pretend like
we don't notice the favoritism she shows her other son and wife?
She makes comments to my husband that he should not tell his brother
his salary and anything good about our lives because it makes him
feel bad. Doesn't she know she's making us feel terrible?
Dr Apter's reply:
Some people find it difficult to focus on two different sides of
the family at the same time. Instead of sharing love, a competition
is set up. Your mother-in-law may be one of those people.
Your mother-in-law may be working so hard to accept her new daughter-in-law
that she is setting her up as her ideal. For the time being,
I would ignore her change of heart. But when she says things
that insult either you or your husband, tell her that she is offending
you. This might be effective at re-focusing her responses
to you.
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